A bunch of others are saying how they support Palestine but dislike Hamas or want a two state solution. There’s even a patsoc saying everyone should be allowed to live on whatever land they already are on. Basically “might makes right.”

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They’re Ukr/Ru centrists.

Strongly supporting the Donbas! Both sides!

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By these people’s logic China shouldn’t have stood up to Japan because they weren’t socialist yet. “National Capitalist vs International Imperialist? I see no difference”

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So much of the 20th century Communist revolts were propelled by anti-colonialism. One could sincerely make the “Communism has never been tried” argument by defining all these resistance movements as simple Soviet flavored nationalism.

At some point, it just becomes a weird neoliberal argument against self-determination. Socialism isn’t even a part of it.

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It will always be absurd to me how people think socialism can happen in the US without decolonization when decolonization is synonymous with socialism throughout most of it’s history.

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I’ve never understood why anyone would say that communism was never tried. Socialism has been tried and built (and its a pretty robust system), but don’t you need a hegemony of world socialist powers as a prerequisite to establish communism?

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