Itās not even an octopus
āHaha silly vatnik, you just got OWNED! Now I shall go back to cyberbullying some minor-celeb over a toy squidā
Several layers to unpack in that explanation:
- āThe idea of the nationā is āŠŠ“ŠµŃ ŠŠ°ŃŃŃā in Ukrainian, so the symbol would have to be superimposed I and H, not superimposed I and N which doesnāt even exist in Ukrainian alphabet. Trying to derive it from the stylised medieval Cyrillic calligraphy is frankly laughable cause it still looks nothing like Latin N.
So this is false on the face of it, the symbol is just an SS Wolfsangel.
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This symbol was used by neo-Nazi, self described āNational Socialistā political groups in Ukraine since the late 90s, and there is direct lineage from them to Azov. Itās simply the same people still using the same symbol.
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He seems to think N is a Ukrainian letter for S, or that the fascist slogan āidea of nationā would have some Ukrainian words starting with S, when itās simply āideya naziyiā cause neither word is of Ukrainian origin. In fact, them choosing to use ānaziyaā instead of much more commonly used Ukrainian word ānaridā is particularly telling.
They try to reverse-explain a nazi symbol and canāt come up with anything better than a fascist slogan.
Need to point out this guy has also gave endorsement to a group called ākrakenā and used insane racialist slurs in this text.
This nazi german arsehole is deliberately spreading fascist propaganda while accusing others of his same level of inhuman decency. Ukraine supporters are nothing but fascist enablers in my eyes.
Iāll also take an issue with the whole āvatnikā meme which is very classist.
Vatnik is a quilted coat with extremely simple design: cotton wadding sewn between two sheets of fabtic, square torso, patch pockets sewn through with stiching showing on the other side, much like French chore coats. It originates from Cental Asian quilted robes and was worn in Russia since the 19th century.
It was mass produced in the USSR since 1932, initially for the Red Army but quickly became ubiquitous - it was warm, sturdy, cheap, easy to produce, so it was used by hunters, construction workers, street sweepers, night watchmen, farmers, and virtually anyone who had to spend a lot of time outdoors in the Russian weather. It quickly spread all over Eastern Europe and Asia, widely used from Poland to Mongolia. As an item of the Eastern Block āheritage workwearā, vatnik is as iconic as denim for yanks.
https://cdn.ren.tv/cache/960x540/media/img/05/7f/057f370d0d9f5874b99e367779d398637edddddc.jpg
People wearing this cheap, crude coat pushed Nazis all the way back to Berlin. Incidentally, Hugo Boss designed Nazi coats didnāt fare quite as well in the Russian winter.
https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-07/1405566239_3366354.jpg
In the 60s and 70s as the USSR economy provided better looking winter garments for its army and citizens, vatniks lost some of their use, but were still common in the rural areas, amongst poorer urban population, and as workwear, well after the dissolution of the USSR.
People who use this word as an insult simply hate the workers and the poor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatnik_(slang)
The meme was created by the Russian artist Anton Chadskiy under the pseudonym Jedem das Seine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedem_das_Seine
In 1937, the Nazis constructed the Buchenwald concentration camp, 7 km from Weimar, Germany. The motto Jedem das Seine was placed in the campās main entrance gate.
widely used from Poland
Confirm, itās called āwaciakā in polish, and it was absolutely everywhere and is still in various form standard working wear for anyone working outside in winter. In non working use itās less popular now, as the classist stigma you mentioned work here too, but a lot of winter jacket designs are still more or less derived from it.
