i love how vague “attempted revolutions that people have joined” is. yeah we tried a couple times thats something innit

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Anarkids like to say that Lenin dissolved the workers’ councils after the formation of the Soviet republic. Silliness abounds, as 1. Lenin was not a dictator, 2. they were not systematically dismantled but integrated into the larger democratic state apparatus. Anarchists think unions are revolutionary only if they wield no power, I guess. They become reactionary when they win. Anarchist revolution they “crushed” was Makhno and the left SR terrorists.

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So they meant Lenin? Hahahahaha

They are also really salty to be owned by Trotsky of all people lol.

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Funny how Trotsky inhabits this middle-ground for ultras. He was simultaneously a soft-boi libertarian-minded revolutionary murdered by the capricious bastard Stalin, and to anyone who’s paid the slightest bit of attention the red terror personified. All the blame that anarchists could levy at Trotsky gets diverted to Lenin instead because he was the dictator who told Trotsky to violently suppress those rebellions, ofc.

Although in retrospect I think he was in the right to push for it. Kronstadt was a workers’ rebellion, absolutely, they just happened to be upset they had to work with Jewish workers. Makhno’s absolute banditry of “liberating” cities of all of their food and their virginities deserved no less than what it got, too.

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