If you completely ignore all context, everything else I mentioned, and everything else Zelensky has said, sure. Zelensky has personally lauded the banning of political parties and human rights groups advocating for the rights and protections of ethnic Russians in Ukraine
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-zelensky-big-israel-moscow-nervous-why
This article goes into more detail.
Well I asked for reading material and what you sent me didnāt support the claim. You havenāt said anything else in this thread to establish and substantiate Zelenskyy advocating for apartheid. The article is also clear that itās the authorās speculating and just following the trajectory. Iām not saying Zelenskyy and his government arenāt Nazis, Iām just asking for condemnation to be based on verifiable non-rescinded statements. Banning socialism and being against the people is bad enough. But publicly supporting apartheid is (I thinkā¦) going to turn public opinion against him in Europe. If itās actually something heās advocated I want it sourced and I want it heard by my fellow Europeans.
As a counterpoint to the narrative in the article: What else is a police state necessary to enforce? My suggestion is the suppression of communism.
My suggestion is the suppression of communism.
Thatās already happening in Ukraine, so itās not what they are talking about. Also, apartheid is already in motion there too, since 2014 when they passed some bills against the russian minority and russian speaking Ukrainians. And their shock therapy especially endangerd Donbass. And they literally started to kill them when they protested. If thatās not apartheid then what it is. Zelensky is standing on a stance of victory in this war, which means Donbas would return to Ukraine - and they want to do what exactly with Donbas then? It will escalate like never before. Again, those are the people who even in middle of losing war make senseless terror strikes against civilians and even attacked Crimea.
Thatās already happening in Ukraine, so itās not what they are talking about.
Iām suggesting that that could be all there is. It doesnāt have to be more. Itās illegal now and enforced because thereās a war going, but how is enforcement going to look once the country is stable?
since 2014 when they passed some bills against the russian minority and russian speaking Ukrainians
Okay, so this is what I want to know more about please.
If thatās not apartheid then what it is.
Apartheid is legal, thatās the big difference Iām getting hung up on. All the defacto apartheid in the world is going to faze most liberals because 1) Theyāre usually racist themselves and 2) āItās just retaliation for the war by lone wolfs and itās blown out of proportionā. But legal apartheid is non-refutable (lol letās go with harder to refute).
Donbas would return to Ukraine - and they want to do what exactly with Donbas then?
Kill (kill is being used a hyperbolic synonym to abuse) Russian citizens and collaborators where there is legal framework for saying they supported an illegal invasion by Russia. Even in the case where the legal wording allows discrimination against those in the east, it wouldnāt illicit as strong a response from the European public as if the legal wording mentioned ethnicity.
Again, those are the people who even in middle of losing war make senseless terror strikes against civilians and even attacked Crimea.
This feels like youāre trying to convince me that the Ukrainian regime is nazis. Iām already onboard with that. Iām only not onboard with the assertion by SovereignState that I have been shown evidence that Zelenskyy has talked about a legally enforced apartheid system.
