It’s not a complicated “conflict”. Its obviously a genocide. Liberals who say both sides are to blame are participating in the massacres of Palestinians. It doesn’t matter if hamas killed any number of Israelis. The so-called crimes that the Palestinians committed can never be equal to the crimes of their oppressors. Especially when their oppressors are killing them with a clear intent of genocide. It is disgusting that zionists hide behind their religion to justify what they do. All the liberals who defend them should get the wall.

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Might want to look into Wittgenstein’s Language Games, can help clarify the purpose and function (and at times pointlessness, not saying that is the case here) of the sorts of pedantic and ‘technically correct’ dysentery folks seem to engage in.

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I’ll look into it! Sounds like a good read!

But I’m really not trying to be pedantic, it’s essentially just elementary school level politics that a country must have 1. Land, 2. Population 3. Government and 4. Sovereignty. It really isn’t negotiable.

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Fair enough, why do you think people seem to get up in arms about it (say, as in this thread?)

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Israel defenders. Or weird pedantic nerds (myself included). Either or. But to be a weird pedantic nerd you at least have to be correct.

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What does sovereignty mean in this context?

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The ability to exert recognized control over a defined territory.

Israel defacto satisfies this, but their territory is undefined (what borders do they go by)? The territory overlaps with what is rightfully considered Palestinian sovereign territory, and the Palestinian population is not recognized by the Israeli authority.

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