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Oh yeah, I wasn’t very clear. I would imagine China has a lot fewer of the insufferable “I don’t like to talk about politics” people than the west, I meant more in a sense of “the government’s doing a good job, so I don’t really care about their ideology as long as they’re doing well.” I think this probably a “no investigation, no right to speak” thing for me though, I’m only going off of second and third hand accounts from people, and I imagine somewhere like Shanghai has a very different attitude in general to somewhere like rural Yunnan.

Though if China’s government was actually capitalist, we would see the same eroding of social programs and people’s QOL we see under all capitalist goverments, not constant improvement, so the argument falls apart on that merit as well.

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Shanghai does. They have a reputation (at least online) for being full of libs.

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