Comment by TinyBreak@aussie.zone on Daily Discussion Thread: 🐥 Thu 18 Jan 2024

Hold on now. We’re nearly there.

Doing my best to stay out of this “doctor killed in home invasion” and “Old man pushed into water” stories. Not doing a good job, I admit… but man what is going on here lately?! Be interesting to see how this plays out politically. Andrews would’ve already called a presser, announced another well-meaning-but-ultimately-useless-taskforce. If Libs had half a brain cell to share between them they’d be attacking the Allan government on being soft, and I hate to say it but that’d be a pretty easy picture to paint at the moment.

crime ain’t upticking. Reporting of crime in sensationalised ways is. The fact you went straight to the politics of it is your answer as to why.

It’s also a classic example of the availability heuristic.

Two notable youth crime events happened recently; therefore, youth crime must be increasing. It’s a non sequitur. But it does unfortunately work on the populace – and has since time immemorial.

I’m not saying crime is up. I’m saying high profile things are up. yes it sells news, but then again, a doctor being killed in a home invasion probably should be news.

Why? I don’t want to come across as cold but a doctor is a person. They’re the same as the rest of us.

Also i hate the term ‘home invasion’ it’s designed to incite panic. It was a robbery that turned violent when he caught the little removed at it and went after them.

It’s not the government though? It’s a judicial issue.

Correct. But government write the laws. They invest or ignore public housing or rehabilitation programs, drug policies. edit: Also need to point out that facts have not baring on a channel 7 “special “investigation””

Do you think the Government should make it illegal to invade people’s homes and kill people? I thought that was already against the law.

I’ll be honest, I don’t know what the solution is. I’ll be the first to say that. I think its a balance of having serious consequences (a dude bashed a woman but was back out on bail!?) and proper rehabilitation and support services. Mental health is a joke in this country. Addiction is worse. It used to take a village to raise kids, now we have a lot of people on their own in tight economic times and we wonder why kids are falling through the cracks.

But I think we elect people to figure out solutions to problems, and instead they’ve declared this one too hard and stuck their head in the sand. I’m not worried about today. I’m worried about where this all goes in 20 years time.

The acts of the judiciary are by design entirely independent of the government. We can’t blame the government for that.

Rehab and support, as well as mental health does come under the government’s remit, however. That said, the support and recognition in these areas has improved immensely since the introduction of the NDIS. IT still isn’t perfect, but it’s the best it has ever been and is still improving.

The cost of living stuff, I’m right ther with you. It’s costing me a fortune just to live in a 3-bedroom townhouse in a reasonable area. I’m paying more to rent here than some jobs on seek are even offering. And I’m hoping to save for a deposit on a mortgage somehow. Which is going to be extra tricky, since I don’t plan to still be in the workforce in 30 years.

But, the truth is: The ludicrous cost of housing benefits far too many Australians for the government to want to tweak that knob too much. If it were suddenly possible to buy a 4 bedroom house in the suburbs for $400k again, the net-worth of a massive chunk of Australians would halve overnight.

I find it depressing. Yeah I know they are young, but there are zero real consequences for their actions, the kids are probably laughing and boasting of their horrific acts thinking they are top shit. It’ll be a slap on the wrist, released on bail and free to go do some more pushing off piers, bashing, robbing, murdering. Our government has decided this is acceptable because it’s not happening in their own back yards, so there’s no plans for rehab programs, penalties, interventions etc. It’s awful.

Melbourne/Australia just seems to be getting more feral.

Edit: Cripes, now I’ve seen about the tent cities and shipping containers being rented out with single beds inside. It’s fucked

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