For the first time ever the hype didn’t disappoint. Honestly a breath of fresh air for anime, my only complaint is I wish it was longer.

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It’s got an extremely fascist attitude towards the demons. Like, arguably worse than Goblin Slayer. In the way that GS has “fantasy savages”, Frieren basically has “fantasy Jews” who must be killed even when they are infants because they “only learn language so they can lie”, etc.

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Not every fantasy enemy has to be morally nuanced, and intractably evil groups aren’t necessarily fascist or racist allegories.

Their world has an abundance of creatures that prey exclusively on humans, and a lot of them do so through mimicry. The demons are predator animals that feed exclusively on people, with the ability to work together to some degree, and very rudimentary abilities to pretend to be human in pursuit of that main goal. Creatures like them are prominent parts of nearly every cultures mythology, and just like the Fae, or vampires or anything similar, they don’t need moral agency to work as antagonists.

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Not every fantasy enemy has to be morally nuanced

It’s always the go-to refuge to take a conversation of “should” and change it to “can”. The creator can do whatever they want, what I am saying is that they shouldn’t.

and intractably evil groups aren’t necessarily fascist or racist allegories.

Intractably evil races most definitely are racial and will always be perceived as such to racist societies like America and Japan.

Their world has an abundance of creatures that prey exclusively on humans, and a lot of them do so through mimicry.

I’m already rolling my eyes. Are you the sad apologist for reactionary treats? I thought it was someone else.

We’ve already played the game a thousand fucking times of “oh, but this species needs human blood” and Promised Neverland is a perfectly fine example of solving it even when it is posed in a very dire manner, though this fictional problem has also been solved in fiction for much longer without the answer being killing literal orphans begging for mercy. Fucking jackass.

The demons are predator animals that feed exclusively on people, with the ability to work together to some degree, and very rudimentary abilities to pretend to be human in pursuit of that main goal. Creatures like them are prominent parts of nearly every cultures mythology, and just like the Fae, or vampires or anything similar, they don’t need moral agency to work as antagonists.

blah blah blaah it’s just verbal diarhea because this conversation is old and you’re just grasping at whatever you can.

Guess what? Vampires were based on bigoted views of Jews too! You actually aren’t helping your case!

And “Fae” simply aren’t comparable, they are intelligent life who can be interacted with and generally aren’t ontologically malicious. You’re 0 for 2 on examples of something in “nearly ever culture’s mythology”. Please, keep trying, and see if you can pick something that isn’t The Poisonous Mushroom this time.

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Guess what? Vampires were based on bigoted views of Jews too! You actually aren’t helping your case!

Bram Stoker didn’t invent vampires, and the creatures and mythology associated vastly pre-date the antisemitic culture surround his novels.

And “Fae” simply aren’t comparable, they are intelligent life who can be interacted with and generally aren’t ontologically malicious.

They’re perfectly comparable. They are not ontologically malicious, but in the majority of their incarnations, they are completely divorced from human mortality or ways of thinking. Creatures that look like people, but do not think like us or share a remotely similar moral framework. (Plenty of mythological fairies are ontologically evil on top of that).

blah blah blaah it’s just verbal diarhea because this conversation is old and you’re just grasping at whatever you can.

I hadn’t realised your name was supposed to be representative of the quality of your discourse.

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