Edit: I didn’t post the following quotes to say he’s a communist. He’s pivoting to centre-left positions with his rhetoric and 6 year plan. He called for reducing poverty by 2% in 6 years and for progressive taxation on the rich.

The true elite are all those serving Russia. Workers and soldiers, reliable, trustable, who have proven their devotion to Russia, the worthy people.

“The very word ‘elite’ has largely been discredited by those who, having no merit to society, consider themselves to be some kind of a caste with special rights and privileges. I specifically mean those who, in previous years, filled their pockets through all sorts of processes in the economy of the 1990s. Those are definitely not the elite,” the president said.

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Putin is a christo-fascist. The wholesale criminalization of queer folk alone should be enough for that label.

The claim is wrong. Queer folk aren’t criminalized, this isn’t Saudi Arabia.

Putin says LGBTQ people are party of society albeit he has conservative takes, his only request is that minors aren’t targeted. Adults can do whatever.

https://www.rt.com/russia/587507-putin-unexpected-lgbtq-thing/

When he was asked by about his gay propaganda law (This only concerns homosexual material from being given to minors) and the role of the church. He reiterated being gay would not be banned and that there’s a seperation between Church and State in Russia. There are many rabid Russian Orthodox Christians who want gays out, Putin isn’t one of them.

Russia is more tolerant than most of the global south. LGBT organizations aren’t allowed since they tend to be aligned with the west but no one is sent to prison for simply for being queer. The government even updated their documents to make it easier for trans people.

In Saudi Arabia and other global south countries, you don’t need to be showing homosexual material to minors to be in trouble.

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This only concerns homosexual material from being given to minor

Come on buddy, you can’t be that dumb.

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If you can back up your claim then go ahead. Gays have never been persecuted in Russia for simply being gay as a policy under Putin.

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his only request is that minors aren’t targeted. Adults can do whatever.

The mechanism for changing gender marker in the documents was removed last year. Trans people cannot change it anymore, and by extention cannot get surgeries or hormones. Whatever, yes.

At the start of this year, “LGBT movement” was deemed to be “extremist” and forbidden. IIRC, an org that was providing legal assistance to LGBT people (including with the cases when people were denied changing gender marker when it was still available) was shut down, others had changed their processes to make it less risky (stricter control of who enters chats, for example). Wearing something like a pride pin can be considered as “supporting LGBT movement” => “supporting extremism” => repeat offences are a felony.

He reiterated being gay would not be banned

As in “as long as they do not peek out of their closets”.

there’s a seperation between Church and State in Russia

wwwwww

State-controlled organisations (Russian Cinema Fund, state-controlled TV channels that I am unwillingly listening to every day) promote orthodox christianity HARD, and the church promotes state’s decisions and all of reactionary shit about us, about “traditional values”, about “духовные скрепы”, and more, which, again, I am hearing on state-controlled TV channels. Separated, yes.

no one is sent to prison for simply for being queer

Again, as long as they do not even peek out of their closets.

The government even updated their documents to make it easier for trans people.

ор выше гор блять, НЕТУ 087/у БОЛЬШЕ, КАКОЙ БЛЯТЬ ЛЕГЧЕ

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I am not sure but it might be possible but unfortunately not easily accessible.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/14/its-hell-russias-transgender-community-rushes-to-undergo-gender-reassignment-as-legal-ban-looms-a81839

Currently, those hoping to change their gender marker and seek gender-affirming surgeries and treatments must first undergo a challenging process involving a specialized medical commission only available in major cities like Moscow.

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So we went from “wholesale criminalization of queer folk” to “It’s the same thing”.

Here’s the difference: Conservatives in America want LGBT to be banned because they say they are pedos targetting children.

Whereas Putin is conservative in regards to wanting children to make the choice when they grow up. It’s like freedom of religion in China, you have to be over 18.

There’s still a massive difference between those societies that actually criminalize homosexuality and Russia which decriminalized it, you refuse to see that. And I have seen that you call Russia imperialist like the other western social-chauvinists. It’s quite clear you don’t want to discuss or learn, so here’s your ban.

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