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I agree, no way it happens spontaneously.

But, based on how willing people are to die from their anti-lockdown astroturfing, if the oligarchs propagandize hard enough and provide some leaders to rally around and tell them what to do I think there would be enough, well not for a civil war, but to stir some real shit.

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What does that even mean? We already have mass shootings, covid death, and austerity, and the occasional terror attack. How can this possibly get worse? Famine?

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Good point, I guess I’m hypothesizing a transition from stochastic/random lone wolf attacks to coordinated actions/goals, like a Gladio strategy of tension sort of thing.

Though, as you say, they’d have to try pretty hard to make things obviously worse from our normal failing state events…

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The conditions are present, but there is no reason for potential fascist financiers to try overthrowing the state. Under a Trump or Biden presidency, they still win.

If a social democrat or socialist manages to win the presidency at some point, civil war may actually happen. There would be a lot of money supporting it.

Right now, the “coup” attempt is driven solely by Trump’s grassroots support. They have no organizing experience at all. Their past four years have been watching Trump on TV. It is not going anywhere.

If we are in a situation where Blackwater, the moneyed interests which own city police, etc are motivated to overthrow the state, these Trump people will follow along. But these financiers are happy with Biden.

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Worldwide famines will put the lives of millions at risk in 2021.

How can this possibly get worse?

Bet you were saying that 2 months ago when COVID wasn’t spreading uncontrolled everywhere.

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that was already a given 2 months ago. Who was saying that this wasn’t going to get out of control under Trump?

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