Comment by 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee on Ideology gap increase between young men and women in various countries.

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Is anyone brave enough to ask why?

This is probably more of a symptom than a cause, but social media platforms pushing manosphere content isn’t helping.

I recon its both, looks like the symptom makes the cause more potent makes the symptoms worse.

Rapid increases in the productive forces of South Korea has resulted in a progressive population of women and a hyper-reactionary population of men, the increase in productive forces was so rapid it caused a hyper-sharpening of contradictions with tradition.

Fascism is sociologically rooted in the sexual insecurity of men. That’s why it’s always men driving it.

Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.

Women live in the same declining capitalistic society as men, yet they are far more resistant to fascism. That’s not to say there is something wrong with men or masculinity. Society puts different pressures on men and women so they react differently.

Masculinity by your argument is also rooted in the development of vaccines, all of the aspects of technological progress, and also all progressive social movements that have resulted in more equitable distribution of political power, ie voting rights act, giving women the vote, etc.

I mean, if history lessons in Italy taught me anything, the ‘super uomo D’Annunziano’, “D’annunzio” and the original italian ‘fascism’ are pretty much linked.

So facism is mens fault? I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing? Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

Who’s the alien they’re pointing to?

This is insulting as fuck. I grew up as a boy with plenty of reactionary beliefs because patriarchy is a fucking prison. And as I got older and got called out for it, you know what I didn’t do? Become a fucking fascist. I wasn’t pushed towards fascism. I was already reactionary and fascism would have required less work of me. That’s not the same thing. And it lets people off the hook to suggest otherwise.

Ok so ur smart enough not to be a fascist congratulations for achieving the bare minimum. Do u think most people are bright enough to go “ohhh yeah fascism is my fault because of the gender i was born i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions” or do they go “no fuck you and fuck everything you stand for”?

ohhh yeah fascism is my fault

I mean if the shoe fits

because of the gender i was born

it’s this aggrieved “wah poor me for being born a man” shit that makes people disregard your bullshit in the first place. whatever happened to masculinity being defined by setting your jaw, gritting your teeth, and fixing your own fuckeries before they could adversely harm your surroundings?

i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions

literally the bare fucking minimum a cracker could do and you phrase it like it’s an impossible fucking pipe dream. and you wonder why people disregard and avoid bullshit peddlers like you.

christ, our species is cooked if you’re an example of the kind of man the future has to look forward to

Did someone ask all men to apologize for something?

How is it insulting? I didn’t say it was you. Fascism is a social phenomenon driven almost entirely by men. That doesn’t mean all men are fascists, or that there is something wrong with masculinity. It’s about certain men in certain situations reacting in what is an entirely predictable way. It is perhaps an insult to fascist men, but I’m comfortable insulting them.

I wasn’t insulted by what you said and I’m not a man

No, it’s not “men’s” fault, but the people who’s fault it is are primarily men. That’s not an opinion, that’s just history, not to mention what’s happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?

to the privileged, equality is oppression. And therefore more pushback to maintain the status quo

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