I had a struggle session with some comrades the other day who said Hip Hop was bad because it degrades women and teaches guys how to be misogynistic. I felt that the perspective paints the genre as one thing and is an unfair generalization despite some aspects of the music being sexist in nature. I get both sides of the argument and wanted to see what you all thought.

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There’s going to be degrading shit in every genre. I’m concerned about you even engaging in something that’s obviously in bad faith. Hip Hop is wonderful when actualized, shit like Common’s Like Water for Chocolate is incredibly uplifting.

The criticism that you’re bringing up is part of an age old tradition of “brown people bad”, it happened with Jazz, it happened with RnB, it happened with Rock, and it’s happening with Hip Hop since the 90’s. Don’t put up with that.

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Don’t forget disco! Definitely not homophobic white supremacist guys literally had a stadium event to blow up disco records back in the day

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I’m not too familiar with the history of disco, which is why I didn’t bring it up.

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read and enjoy!. There’s also a dollop on this, the guy that organised it was a real scumbag.

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I agree. I honestly don’t know as much as I should about the genre besides what’s in the mainstream but I think making the case that a whole genre is bad because of a few artists is wrong and plays into a racist narrative. I guess it’s best to educate myself if people try and make that argument with me again.

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Would you like to learn? Hip hop is as diverse as people, especially since much of it is lyrically driven. Some of the production that goes into making it is just crazy.

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Of course. I appreciate everyone putting recommendations in the thread.

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