Hexbear

9 points

2 months ago

Asking me 200 questions of easily debunked nonsense isnt going to strengthen your arguement and is a typical response to a conspiracy theorist being called out, instead of wasting my time debunking all of this shit (which you wont care about anyway) I will instead just say that like most conspiracy theorists, you all agree on what happened but cannot agree on why it happened.

This is a mythology and is not serious analysis, you are engaging in religion not marxism.

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Tovarish Tomato@lemmygrad.mlOP

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6 points

2 months ago

Fair enough but can you point me to places where I can find rebutalls of this? Edit: particularly for the wtc 7 stuff, I just don’t understand how a building that wasn’t hit by a plan collapses.

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Puddleglum@lemmygrad.ml

7 points

2 months ago

There are a lot of explanations on building 7. It needed rennovation in the first place. When the planes hit the towers tons of burning debris came out. Some of which hit tower 7. Water to the area was knocked out when the towers fell and firefighters were not focused on getting the fire out. Building 7 was on blazing fire for something like 7 hours before it fell.

If you are interested just search for it there are a ton of reports on what happened with it. People will use a building has never fallen From Fire argument but, buildings dont usually burn for hours and hours with no one doing anythinf about it.

And the real question is why? Why blow up building 7? What would be the point? Just to fuel conspiracy theorists or what?

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7 points

2 months ago

My advice?

Stop caring, it happened, america carried out a genocide in response and people are still faslely imprisoned in concentration camps on cuban soil as a result.

This entire thing is just a black hole designed to waste your time and is predicated on you having a bias and working backwards from there rather than starting with no assumptions and doing a proper analysis.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml

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15 points

2 months ago

Comrade you can’t just call someone conspiracy theorist and then answer “stop caring” on the good faith question about one of most important and impactful event of the century.

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5 points

2 months ago

I can absolutely tell someone to get off the stream of making controlled demolotion theories, it is not a productive stream of thought to go down and only fills the head with utter nonsense.

most important and impactful event of the century.

In the american conciousness maybe, to most people in the world its barely a 4/10; the aftermath, sure, but given the first gulf war already happened I think they would have found any excuse if it didnt.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml

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11 points

2 months ago

I agree that ultimately it don’t matter since we will get the truth in some years or decades or maybe never, but you must admit USA have long list of false flag attacks or provocations perfectly fitting “qui bono” question and coincidental with their contemporary political line. And it also have a very long tradition to promoting conspiracy theories to obfuscate what’s really happened. And at the same time turning legit theories into conspiracy ones, remember everything about Korea and Vietnam that was later proven?

And where they should get answers if not here? On some sites where they will hear that UFO did it? If you don’t know the answer or it does not interest you at least don’t bash people for searching.

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5 points

2 months ago

If you don’t know the answer or it does not interest you at least don’t bash people for searching.

So far the pro-conspiracy theorists in the thread have posted theories by a guy who advocated IV’ing baking soda as a treatment for cancer, this train of thought is doing real phsycic damage.

The reason why its not even worth engaging in this nonsense is because you can just watch one of the hundreds of hours of recorded footage of the planes slamming into the towers to figure out ‘what happened’, entertaining anything else is just a black hole of nonsense that piles on 100’s of questions of speculation and quasi-science in service of grifting.

Its as simple as we meddled in the middle east and they gave the US 1% of the taste of there own medicine, nothing deeper.

I agree that ultimately it don’t matter since we will get the truth in some years or decades or maybe never,

The truth really isnt that hard to grasp, the nonsense that comes in afterwards on the contary shouldnt be tried to grasp, it is a symptom of the lack of critical thinking taught to americans and the mass delusions they regularly engage in, in place of actually learning solid theory that could improve there lives, this is convienent for the upper class.

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