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That’s fair, but we should remember that the AOC wing of the party did get a pledge from Pelosi that she would step down in 2022. I get that it could be too little too late, but that’s already more than the Obama wing of the party ever tried to do. And AOC’s replies to Justin Jackson/Kyle Kulinski’s twitter - that she’s working on things such as getting a M4A opponent off the major committee or forcing votes on things the Democrats have promised or rolling back PAYGO. That doesn’t give me an “Obama vibe” as much as a “it’s the best we can do with only 5 or so comrades in Congress right now” vibe.

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that she’s working on things such as getting a M4A opponent off the major committee or forcing votes on things the Democrats have promised or rolling back PAYGO

Promising that progress is being made behind closed doors is the biggest thing I remember from the Obama admin.

There is an obvious lever of political power that they are refusing to touch. Why would Pelosi concede anything?

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Promising that progress is being made behind closed doors is the biggest thing I remember from the Obama admin.

A vote that has no chance of producing M4A isn’t very different from a promise that progress is being made behind closed doors.

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That’s fair, but we should remember that the AOC wing of the party did get a pledge from Pelosi that she would step down in 2022.

Nancy Pelosi is fucking 80. It’s likely she’d be stepping down anyway.

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