Hexbear

10 points

4 years ago

i personally think Brazil is on the table for revolution

uh… why? after colombia we’re probably the most reactionary shithole in all of south america lol

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cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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5 points

4 years ago

Northern Brazil has revolutionary potential in the way the south doesn’t per my understanding no? Isn’t there a state with a communist governor?

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3 points

4 years ago

i would say the northeast and the north are the regions with the most revolutionary potential, but the working class here (i’m in the northeast) is even more disorganized than in são paulo for instance, and without organizing we won’t have shit

as for the state governor, the history of our communist movement is a bit complicated, but to sum it up PCdoB (flávio dino’s party) has become a reformist party through and through and PCB is the one that maintains its marxist roots

and this is coming from someone who to this day still thinks even bernie is a socialist, so when i say dino is a lib you can be sure he is lol

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cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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3 points

4 years ago

Is he more or less of a lib than Lula? Because I view Bernie in the same lense as I view Lula and that’s as being unquestionably liberal as is required to remotely being able to govern at all.

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4 points

4 years ago

lula is a full-on liberal, he’s interested in incremental reform done through institutions and he sees mass movements as at most accessory to this (winning elections), not the tools to achieve structural change from the outside

dino is about the same

bernie was a bit different, he at least acknowledged the need for organizing and the existence of class struggle as something that workers can win

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cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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3 points

4 years ago

Interesting you say that, I guess my perspective is shifted because Lula actually held office, honestly makes me even more disappointed that Bernie lost now given the shear magnitude of the quality of life improvements Lula helped bring to Brazil working class and poor.

Bernie has really done a ton to reignite the labor movement in this country, it really is his lasting change. He’s been arguably the most important activist our country has had in decades, but he is still only really an activist.

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3 points

4 years ago

lula’s most important contributions were raising the minimum wage and expanding a sort of “food stamps” program (quotes because it was more like a $50/month UBI focused on erradicating hunger), despite being pretty simple these policies actually yielded massive results

but unlike other pink tide leaders such as chávez and evo, he brought 0 structural change so most of that is gone by now

the only reform he ever did was a pension reform - not to increase pensions mind you, but to cut them (fulfilling promises he made to capital/finance in the infamous 2003 letter, “carta ao povo brasileiro”)

plus when chávez wanted to bring telesur to brazil - in an attempt to help create an actual media alternative to our mostly neoliberal-dominated press - lula refused, so as to not displease globo (our largest network)

whenever he was presented with the opportunity to help workers in the class struggle, he backed down and picked the more conciliatory approach - that’s the hallmark of liberal politics and it wasted our greatest opportunity in decades

as for bernie, i don’t think he would’ve been able to enact any of his policies (we’re not in the post-war period, the conditions for social democracy just aren’t here), but people being incentivized by the federal government to become more organized could’ve been pretty amazing in the long run, so it is pretty disappointing that he failed :(

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ghostofvirgil [any,he/him]@hexbear.net

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3 points

4 years ago

idk dont they have riots some times just a feeling

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3 points

4 years ago

america has had more riots this year than brazil, would you say america is on the table for revolution?

it’s having an organized working class under the right circumstances that leads to this, in our case the circumstances have always been here but our working class has been pretty scattered since the 30s (though they had a little bit of a revival in the late 70s/early 80s)

bolivia, on the other hand, is a place where revolution might go off in the near future

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