This was fun last time, leggo again

I’ll start with: libertarians have solid takes ~40-50% of the time and many of them just need to be pushed a step further in their thinking to turn against capitalist oppression along with state oppression. The libright-to-leftist pipeline is stronger than most seem to think it is.

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Only unpopular here, completely cold take everywhere else: online “tankies” are seriously off-putting and almost as obnoxious as neo-libs. Yes 90% of what everyone knows about North Korea and China is racist propaganda, but forming your entire identity around defending Huawei from US economic imperialism is just cringe and profoundly confused imo. The worst part is how condescending they are to everyone else and how they act like their third eye is opened. As an anarchist I’m ultimately entirely okay with American world hegemony being broken up by the Chinese and hoping whatever takes its place is better. I know “tankies” can get behind that too but for some reason they’re obsessed with calling us rad-libs and imperialists apologists

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And they post memes about murdering anarchists “ironically” and just be like “haha just some gentle ribbing, right? Haha we wouldn’t totally murder anarchists given the opportunity, it’s a joke!”

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It’s a confusion between “ideologically rigorous” and “simple contrariness”, masquerading as galaxy brain thought.

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Maybe I am in an unusually sympathetic group of people. I feel like in my friend group talking shit like, “the USSR was pretty cool the stuff we all know about it is CIA lies” has had better results than, " well actually Stalin was bad but the ideas he had could be used for good."

I realize anecdote isn’t evidence, I feel like we have seen the Right go pedal to the metal and shift the overton window successfully. I think it can work for us. For sure people will complain, however I don’t think that proves it isn’t working

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