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I’m with you on this one. I don’t know why some folks expect her to start stanning ML states when neither she (nor Bernie!) have ever painted themselves as anything other than social democrats, for all practical purposes.

Like literally, what would make you think either AOC or Bernie are socialists other than the label they occasionally use for themselves? 99.9% of their words and 100% of their actions point to social democracy, and they don’t pretend otherwise. And you know what, I think that’s ok. Personally I think social democracy represents the outer left limit of what can be accomplished via electoralism in the US.

(btw I will always try and include Bernie whenever AOC is mentioned because even though their politics are exactly identical AOC seems to get a lot more hate for some reason…

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You get that none of those states are Socialist and she calls herself a Socialist, right? What is this bullshit excuse making all over the place?

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I think Rashida is basically AOC, but with better foreign policy. Still not good foreign policy, but at least pro-Palestine and more staunchly anti-war.

Ilhan is also good, but I feel like she’s had some yikes takes, though I can’t think of what exactly off the top of my head.

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All of them are still fairly pro democratic party in a way Sanders clearly wasn’t. They all tend to exist in a space somewhere between Sanders and Warren rather than to his left. This said, Cori Bush is absolutely to left of squad 1.0, Nina Turner who had some worse politics than most of these folks previously is also far less afraid of attacking the Democrats head on than AOC/Ilhan/Rashida.

The Squad was clearly more closely mentored by Jayapal than by Sanders, although I do also imagine a big part of this comes from the fact that they are members of the house and not the Senate and it’s much easier to have independence as a Senator due to their procedural rules.

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Yes, you are right. Demsocs are Allende or Chavez.

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