They both suck
I didn’t bring his character into it.
Your initial post was “they both suck”, so yes you did.
And there’s a world of difference between training NATO-funded jihadists in Libya and whatever you might throw at Dore.
this whole debate is pointless.
No, it isn’t. The raison d’être of elected socialists is to use their position to advance the objective interests of the working class. DSA-candidates campaigned like that, AOC acted like that when she was just elected, and it seems that the system is managing to encapsulate them. It’s very telling that those people are refusing to use their leverage in one of the few moments that they have it, and it should make us pause and think about how we can prevent our elected representatives from going down that path in the future.
I guess I fundamentally disagree with the idea that it makes a difference whether this debate lands one way or the other. A bit of a congressional procedural song and dance doesn’t seem to advance the cause of socialism to me. Maybe I could be convinced by someone who was a principled and well read socialist and knew what they were talking about, but Dore isn’t that person 🤷♂️
A bit of a congressional procedural song and dance doesn’t seem to advance the cause of socialism to me
Do you think socialists have any business in electoralism, or do you think it should be completely abandoned?
Electoralism? Perhaps, when strategically useful. American two-party electoral politics specifically? Probably not. Because I don’t think it’s particularly strategically useful. Almost all gains by the American left have historically come outside the party system.
