a completely unsourced rant, from the same people that peddled the ‘Iraq has WMD’s’ bullshit.
Some names have been changed.
Was Adrien Zenz one of them?
Trying to parse what parts of this are true and which aren’t.
I believe that she was actually in a camp as that would be a pretty easy thing to disprove if she was lying but the whole part about how she went back to China seems absolutely bizarre. So she’s been was granted asylum in France, started working at a bakery and cafeteria, and lived there for 10 years but was still employed by her Chinese company somehow?
Then they need her to fly all the way there just to sign some paperwork in person? I’m sorry but it’s 2020, there are hundreds of ways to get an issue like that sorted that don’t require wasting loads of money flying someone to China and if she claims they were just insisting that to get her over there then you’d have to be an absolute moron not to see that giant red flag.
It sounds like her husband and kids were involved with separatist groups in Paris so I wouldn’t be surprised if she went back to Xinjiang to meet people or contacts with ETIM and that’s why she was taken to a camp.
The camp stuff is all probably true or slightly exaggerated; obviously the sterilisation stuff is ridiculous cuz there’s no injection that can permanently sterilise you and I have no idea how she’d know she’d been sterilised.
I think the stuff China is doing is racist and really fucked up but the lies and sketchiness of all the stories that come out makes it so hard to know the extent to which we should criticise them.
So you don’t think there’s anyway of knowing what’s really going on but are also so sure that its racist and really fucked up.
I’ve never said I don’t think there’s anyway of knowing what’s going on. I think it’s hard to know the full extent. Even without getting into the camps, China’s own De-extremification Regulations outline clear racial profiling which is, yes, racist and fucked up.
Agreed. It’s clear that western media lies a great deal about Xinjiang; and the reeducation centers are obviously not analogous to the Holocaust as is so frequently suggested. But the official motivations and policies for them resemble those of North American Indigenous Residential schools far too much for me to feel comfortable defending. And past readings through article on The Gray Zone, or that big Google Doc posted here months backhas done nothing to dissuade me from that view.
This is particularly true because both China’s line, and many of it’s defenders, have adopted a very unmaterialist view of why tensions exist in Xinjiang in the first place. As though “radical Islamic Terrorism” just appeared there one day; and is not the result of decades of rising discontent among Uighur’s in the face of deprivation and state policy percieved as actively hostile. As well as clearly inflammatory Chinese actions like setting up training camps for Uighur mujahideen in Xinjiang during the Soviet Afghan war .
Though admittedly; certain policies now pursued by the Xinjiang government do recognize that this is a conflict rooted in past and present deprivations of an ethnic group; and providing better access to decent jobs better living standards, and more equal representation in government will do more to end this tragic conflict than any civics lesson possibly could.
It sounds like her husband and kids were involved with separatist groups in Paris so I wouldn’t be surprised if she went back to Xinjiang to meet people or contacts with ETIM and that’s why she was taken to a camp.
A Chinese court found her innocent and released her. Beyond the absurdity of imagining that a middle aged relatively well off Christian women was collaborating with an Islamic terrorist organization in Xinjiang from France, why would the PRC release her if there wasn’t clear evidence of her innocence?
