EZLN, the favorite example of Anarchists and revisionists of an alternative to Marxism-Leninism, has now collapsed due to lack of solid theoretical fundamentals.
Marxism-Leninism is the consistent science of the liberation of the working masses, and no viable alternatives have been seen to date.
article in English https://apnews.com/article/mexico-indigenous-zapatista-rebels-violence-04006895dc4bd430b4b957d459551a12
I don’t think some realize that when you get rid of the anarchist methods in favor of more centralized ML ones, that fundamentally makes it not any sort of anarchist adjacent movement. Which is what I think Yogthos is saying in relation to that.
Marxism Leninism is the correct path, tested by blood and time. Its sad to see modern communism having to retread old ground.
has now collapsed due to lack of solid theoretical fundamentals.
lol. k
if you’re expecting pro ‘anarchist methods’, you shouldn’t be in the Marxist Leninist instance
your reply is bad because it lacks solid theoretical fundamentals
all smart ass comments aside, im mostly throwing shade at OP for how ridiculous they sound.
the Zapatista movement, which lasted for 40+ years 1/2 the USSR, and isn’t even gone just restructuring, completely collapsed because they didn’t read enough theory!!!
OP is perpetuating negative ML stereotypes in a big way.
Celebrating when our indigenous comrades suffer a setback in self-determination is not a good look. As MLs we should support their fight against Capital even if it doesn’t precisely follow doctrine. There’s much to be learned from Zapatismo.
The Zapatistas don’t even call themselves Anarchists or claim n Anarchist lineage. Don’t be smug against them just to own terminally online anarchists
And who’s to say Zapatismo can’t Evolve like other branches of socialist ideology?
There should no one be celebrating or going “I told you so”, we need more unity and we can learn from one another
Obviously it would be better if they could succeed, but it’s also important to recognize that what we’re seeing was entirely predictable. It’s important to look at both the positive and the negative aspects of the approach critically in order to learn to avoid the same pitfalls in the future.
And while it’s true that there is no direct lineage between Zapatistas and western Anarchists, it’s clear that a lot of the ideas and methods are compatible. Hence, the problems that Zapatistas ran into will also be encountered by other movements founded on similar principles.
My main point was that long term liberation cannot be achieved by carving out autonomous regions within a capitalist state. The workers must take charge of the state itself. So far, ML approach has been the only reliable way to achieve that.
Not to gloat, but ML’s are right once again…
Although yeah, it always sucks to see any indigenous project crumble, anarcho-communist or no.
