Elder Scrolls is literally the least “fash” fantasy out there. Yes, I am a huge fucking nerd, no I am not white, I’ll see you in the comments mother fucker, I KNOW THE LORE! FIGHT ME!

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mfkers be like “yeah i played skyrim, i know the elder scrolls inside out”

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Yeah I’ve read the Elder scrolls

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You can not know elder scrolls inside out unless you have played Morrowind on a computer that could barely handle to render inside the boat, to truly appreciate each precious frame.

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You can not truly know the elder scrolls inside out unless you bought daggerfall and never got out of the first dungeon

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Download the Hexbear mod, I’m waiting

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I KNOW THE LORE! FIGHT ME!

Out of all the main characters in the series, which one is the strongest and which one would come out on top in a round robin 1v1 tournament? Give reasoning and proper argumentation.

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I’m assuming by “main character” you mean player character. If not that complicates it a hundredfold.

Probably the Oblivion main character, but only post-Shivering Isles once they mantle Sheogorath. Mantling is the process by which one may become another by performing certain acts and/or feats and essentially gaining that person’s powers, visage and personality.

Base-game it’s probably the Dragonborn due to their access to the Voice and their connection to Akatosh, Dragon-God of Time. During the main story, they’re even able to go back in time via the use of an Elder Scroll which they’re able to read without training or going blind (permanently anyway). They’re probably the most Divine Driven of the heroes.

1-3 are just kinda Imperial agents and such, sent on a mission to complete. Though TES III is kind of complicated where your mission is to attempt to fulfill a prophecy, so you’re kind of an agent but also kind of the reborn soul of a long-lost hero destined to save Morrowind, whether you’re actually the hero or just someone who managed to fulfill the criteria is left up to the player to decide. Though the Nerevarine did also kill a god but her powers were waning anyway, as were their other potential godly victim. Dagoth Ur is also another self-proclaimed god so I guess you kill three throughout the course of the whole game and expansions.

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Is Alduin>Sheogorath? If so couldn’t you make the claim that since LDB>Alduin, then LDB>Sheogorath?

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Alduin was prophecised to be destroyed by the Last Dragonborn and sent by Akatosh for this purpose. Alduin failed in his duty of ending the world and bringing in the new one and so this is his punishment. He doesn’t even technically die in Skyrim, merely defeated, as he is the only Dragon you kill whose soul you do not absorb.

The LDB is kind of tailor-made to destroy Alduin, the same can’t be said for Daedric Princes. Even in ESO when you “kill” Molag Bal with the power of both Meridia and Akatosh he is still alive but merely diminished in power for a time. Even the lesser Daedra don’t seem to truly die but instead return to the Chaotic Creatia where they are reshaped or reformed.

In Bloodmoon, Hircine doesn’t even let you fight his true form in the name of fairness. You only fight an aspect of your choosing and even then they’re one of the strongest entities in the game.

Here’s an example of the Oblivion MC attacking Sheogorath in their own realm as well.

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Am I a bad geek if I don’t really get “who would win” debates? Like I don’t see the appeal at all.

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No. Some people like it, some people don’t. It’s interesting to me because I’m curious about power mechanics of a given universe.

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Wolverine vs. Mr. Clean go!

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For the sake of keeping this reasonably sized, I will assume you mean protagonists of the main games, if you mean the strongest non-god entity, then the Talos oversoul (pre apotheosis) is the strongest (Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus and Hjalti-Early Beard) due to acces to the numidium and the resources of an entire empire, as well as being the most powerful warrior, mage, and politician on Tamriel. So, as far as protagonists go, its The Hero of Kavatch, and its not even close, the HoK has mantled Sheogorath and is a literal Deadric lord. You could make the argument that as long as The Last Dragonborn doesn’t enter oblivion, they could beat the HoK (temporarily) and the argument could be made that the LDB could mantle a Deadric prince if they wanted to seeing as how the HoK did it, but then again, the HoK only did it with the cooperation of the previous Sheogorath. Also the LDB’s connection to Herma-mora is irrelevant, as they are subservient to Herma, and even if the LBD had Herma working for them, we run into the same problem of needed to beat Sheogorath (HoK) in their own realm of oblivion, which is basically impossible. If you don’t count post apotheosis HoK then the LBD is the most powerful mortal.

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What about the Agent from Daggerfall? If we’re assuming endgame of all heroes, he technically has Numidium with him (can’t control it though) due to posessing the Mantella.

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which one would come out on top in a round robin 1v1 tournament?

These were the conditions. Whether or not anyone has the resources of an empire or the numidium doesn’t apply. Yes, I am talking about the protagonists of the main game. Comparing their power sets, who would come out on top? I want specifics of feats. E.g. LDB can shout fire, become ethereal etc. How do they compare in a fight?

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This doesn’t really work, because you can’t just get these characters in a round robin 1v1 tournament without breaking the lore (timelines, getting HoK out of oblivion) so doing a lore analysis is kinda moot. but I guess if we are talking pre-apotheosis HoK, and we just time travel everyone into a pocket realm of oblivion, The Eternal Champion, the Hero of Kavatch and The Agent just get wiped instantly by the LBD’s thuum and the Neravarine’s artifacts (keening, sunder, and wraithguard), as they are just mortals who did a thing. Between the LBD and Neravarine, I would say the LBD comes out on top, simply due to the fact that the LBD has bend will wich can mind control even Dragons, which are some of the most powerfull non-deity status beings in the universe.

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Skyrim was cool and Oblivion was also cool (probably cooler tbh)

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Elder scrolls is bad because they’re too cowardly to let you play as a Dwarf (obviously best fantasy race) and all of their shitty lore is just making excuses about how the dwarves are too cool to let you play as them.

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The Dwemer are objectively the (second) most evil race behind the Alyieds, and not evil becuase of their race, but because of what their societies did, (lots and lots of slavery among other horrible institutional evil).

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Sorry, I won’t hear this liberal take about the only species to achieve posadism.

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Who are the alyieds?

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The Alyieds, or Heartland elves, are the elves that settled in what is now cyrodil, and the builders of the Imperial City and all the white marble ruins in oblivion. They enslaved the needic humans living in cyrodil and made extinct the bird like race that once inhabited the jungles of cyrodil. The Alyieds were destroyed by the slave uprising of St Alessia, who founded the first empire.

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