At this point I don’t know how feasible that is
Yeah good luck. I see a lot of “leftists” spreading the word nordic socialism lmao. Socialism is the good things done in white nordic countries. Communism is the scary thing done in Cuba, USSR, Yugoslavia and China.
in order to move past
People like V***h scoop them up now and they don’t actually have to move past.
He’s currently doing “think of the children” bullshit regarding Pride so maybe one day he’ll just not be taken seriously at all.
Party organization + good messaging has a snowballing effect through recruitment. It looks impossible because it feels like you’d have to personally convince hundreds of people, but that’s not the case.
The difficult part is joining/creating parties willing to have coherence and discipline, but luckily that’s a lot more tractable than convincing every lib to stop being lib.
Also, you’d be surprised at how amenable people are to large swaths of socialist thinking, they’ve just never been exposed to it. Literally never. Those are opportunities.
You need 10 percent of the population to be coherent you just need a coherent vanguard party and people willing to be radicalized
The problem is that even 1% of the population is well over a million people, and they have to be positioned correctly over a continent-spanning country. Any way you slice it, we’re looking at something worth calling a mass movement.
Oh gee who’d have thought that you need a mass movement for socialism and you can’t do it with 500 people on some online forum…
The point is that while the idea of a vanguard party sounds small, in reality it’d have to be something like ten times the size of the DSA at minimum.
Start by dismantling the empire. Then get everyone a real job instead of realty, “doing personal fitness”, or whatever fake jobs most people here have
Yeah, but what if we regulated who could give out health advice on Youtube
This is like a chicken and egg thing isn’t it? Like do we need to get socialism to dismantle Empire or do we need to dismantle Empire to get socialism?
We need to get socialism first, because Americans are so ignorant/apathetic on foreign policy issues.
You can make Americans socialists, and socialism has all sorts of natural pathways to anti-imperialism. But trying to make non-socialist Americans anti-imperialists is much more difficult because for the most part people don’t know or care.
The problem here is, what’s more likely? The US left right now doesn’t inspire very much confidence. A large chunk of them even seem to be fanning the flames of war. On the anti-imperialist side, we see some promising developments in Latin America.
Pretty sure the empire will dismantle itself, like a helicopter that shakes itself apart. We just have to be there to take the empire-helicopter wreckage and make it into a socialism train before the fascists just make the wreck fly again by strapping rockets to it.
Maybe, but I’m of the mind that there’s no roadmap, clear or vague, to the dismantling of Empire right now. What the US is trending towards right now is fascism, priming the population for war by creating an external enemy. I have very little confidence in the US left to reverse this trend.
