I guess if humanity straightens its shit out and I miss out on motherhood I’ll be pretty sad, but I’m not gonna take that bet. I told my family that they’d get grandchildren/cousins if Bernie won, and, well… :bernie-pout:
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Not if we win.
Humanity has persevered through worse. We will survive. We will persist. We will win. The future isn’t written until it happens. We will never get to utopia if we give up on the way there. And even if the path is paved with sharp stones, we shall walk on it. We shall fight for our children who will in turn fight for their children who will live in paradise. And we shall ensure that our children will have a chance to fight for their children, to fight for preservation of humanity, to fight for the future, to tread on the sharp stones on the path to paradise. And once we reach paradise, we will be remembered as heroes, as martyrs, as parents. As those who sacrificed everything so that their children may live a better life.
Someone gets it. As many people may die, as hot and uninhabitable as the world may become, there will be SOME people still left alive, even if it’s just a few thousand of them scratching in the dirt in the Arctic. The coming climate collapse might kill billions but it won’t kill off humanity, we’re too strong for that. And just knowing that there is going to be SOME humans in the future is enough knowledge to keep fighting today
And that’s the worst-case scenario. If change is swift and decisive, we will avert that, and we will come to paradise much sooner. But even if we fail and there is global catastrophe; there is no reason to give up. There is no excuse to give up. The last remaining person in a tribe has no excuse to give up, to just lay down and accept defeat. To do that is to insult to the highest degree all those who died, who sacrificed everything in order to protect them, in order to let them in turn fight for others. There is no excuse to give up. We have no excuse to give up. We will not give up.
I feel bad that this is the only thing I can think of when I interact with my friends’ toddlers
Yeah that was kinda the point I was trying to make with this post. I guess people won’t hesitate to call me an anti-natalist with titles like this, but I’m seeing some of my high school friends having children and I just don’t know how they’re going to fare when I see headlines like this
I don’t shit on people who have children, it’s just that my mind immediately goes to stuff like this when I think of the bleak climate situation we have going on
Anti-natalists are weird to me because they’ll make this argument but then would also make the same argument for any given point in history too. Like is it really about climate collapse or is it something else??
Was digging around for some info to help put things in perspective and found this:
I think current estimates are that modern humans arose something like 300,000 years ago, so this is truly an unprecedented challenge for humanity.
it’s not “giving up” to recognize how awful the future is shaping up to be.
how many times do i have to say this? shit doesn’t happen until it fucking happens
imagine if you are a russian in 1941. you know how bad things are going to be if the germans win.
you should take that as a fucking motivator to change things, to make it so that that worst-case scenario isn’t going to happen, to continue fighting, not fucking take that as a cue to just lay down your arms and partake in doomerism, savoring the flavor of horror and bathing in breath of utter helplessness. no. to do that is to ensure that the worst-case scenario is going to happen.
defeatism is a self-fulfilling prophecy. OP’s title is encouraging defeatism.
