I’d love a TV community for my Korra struggle sessions

Science Fiction and Fantasy (SFF) Twitter has been debating this all day. I love SFF, but basically all the authors are well-meaning but dumb libs. The best take I saw was Jeanette Ng’s.

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That’s definitely way too broad a brush. There are many, many leftist SFF authors.

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Unironically welcome there

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I don’t care what the show’s overall political message was; I have been lusting for someone to bring down the walls of Ba Sing Se since 2006.

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I just hate that our connection to the past Avatars has been lost, I miss them so FUCKing much.

I love all Avatar shows. Will the next one be about the Avatar directly after Korra? Will it be generations down so that we can skip to a Fire Avatar without having to watch an Earth avatar? I do not know! I know only that I look forward to it.

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I don’t know if there is a “next” one planned. There is a live-action Netflix show being made, but the original creators left the production because Netflix insisted on aging up the characters and making it gritty and sexual and shit, so it’ll probably be trash

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Gah, a live action show could be so cool, as long as it wasn’t… bad hahaha :/ I’ll probably still watch it hah

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I get that, but also think it makes a lot of thematic and historical sense. The Avatars generally represent society, and industrialisation represents a radical break with the past. Korra is the first real industrial Avatar, so it makes since to me that as the world breaks its ties with its past, so does Korra. The only thing I’d do differently is have Korra keep her connection with Aang, because he’s the bridge between the traditional world and the industrialised one.

I’m honestly scared of how terrible a new Avatar’s politics would be

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You might say that new modes of production completely destroy the superstructure built above the old and only on the ashes of the old can a new society be built.

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I agree with you, and I think it makes sense, but I also disagree because I’m personally tired of the narrative that industrialisation fundamentally changed humanity.

Really, as different as things are, they are still the same. Power is power. Humans are humans. It wasn’t some psycho-spiritual evolutionary threshold, it was a relatively minor social reorganization and some technological adaptations. To me, that whole narrative feels a lot like the liberal’s version of it, ‘the end of history’.

Like, we’re talking about spirit, and about humanity’s fundamental connection with the natural world (bending), and our connection to our ancestors (perhaps understood modernly as ‘evolved characteristics’ or somesuch). Those things don’t just change in 10 generations because of some technological threshold, imo, as much as different cultures like to imagine they do.

Oh wow we burn coal now instead of wood! I guess we’re suddenly a different species, time to just ignore the entirety of history up to this point hahaha

(yes fine I have some extremely personal and extremely pent-up gripes with that particular metanarrative, I really hope you don’t take this personally, you’re just the comrade who made me think of it just now hahahaha)

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Gorn. You should read The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State and “Caliban and the Whitch”.

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I won’t talk about Avatar specifically, except to mention that even bending changes under industrial capitalism, losing its spiritual element and becoming profane (pro bending), used as vehicles for advertising and large corporations rather than spiritual fulfilment.

But in our world industrialisation, along with capitalism, has radically shifted everything, at least where I live. Extended family doesn’t exist, the nuclear family as a structure reshapes the fabric of our society, the way we think of ourselves as individuals is radically different from how people in the 1600s thought of themselves, most people don’t live on farms, etc. It was not a minor social change; for most of history, humans existed as hunter-gatherers mostly. Agriculture was a radical change, but industrialisation makes it look small. I’m not saying humans had some massive evolutionary change; biologically, we’re mostly the same as we were 50,000 years ago. But the scale of our society, it’s organisation, the way we think of ourselves, etc, have all been massively shifted by industrialisation.

I don’t take it personally, I like discussion

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