Time to talk about why vim is better than emacs and recruit for the temple of vim
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No joke just learning the very basics of vim will make editing text much more pleasant. Also, it’s everywhere. You can get vim bindings in Pycharm/IntelliJ, Atom, VSCode, etc. You don’t have to use vim in the terminal proper.
I’ve been using vim for 6 years and I average one new keyboard shortcut a year. Honestly all I think I really need to know is tabs/windows, vertical select, and go to bottom of the file.
That being said its my main editor and I honestly feel like it makes me a better programmer to not rely on auto-complete.
Vim bindings in an IDE is a waste of time and never feels quite right. the timings are off which means I fuck up said bindings.
I find it amazing that I always seem to learn just another shortcut- there’s so many!
Yeah, my experience with bindings has been very mixed. I will say, VsVim bindings work extremely well, but that has been the best I’ve experienced and some other IDEs are just super laggy like you’ve said.
I’ve only tried vim bindings in VS code so that may be why my opinion is as it is. The work I do tends to not be limited by not using a full ide. Mostly running grep -re <string> in a directory to find references is just as fast as an ide search. I find switching to a mouse often while editing just so frustrating.
Emacs is better for lisp development. I say this as a former vim enthusiast who had to learn lisp.
That totally makes sense, One of my friends who is really into lisp development has always raved about emacs and basically uses it for everything, like even emails and stuff.
Is it better for all lisp, or just emacs-lisp? Like, is clojure better in emacs? Otherwise, isn’t this like saying vim is better at vim-script?
When i started clojure programming it was much better for interactive lisp development. I haven’t tried vim with fireplace in a long time for clojure development but it’s still a nice tool. I tried it back before vim had async calls which is one thing that made it a pain. I think the reason emacs is better for lisp development is because it already had a lot of the necessary concepts for interactive development built in for emacs lisp (eval-last-sexp for example). Many lisp users just use emacs so a lot of the great tooling like Cider was developed for emacs.
I’ve also found emacs to be great for common lisp and hy.
Ah, this makes sense. I was thinking about code editing + navigation, but yeah, I can see how emacs would be better for REPL/interactive usage.
