Degrowth is only possible once the US is defeated and replaced as the world’s sole superpower.

i am begging you to listen to the pod :the-podcast:

Jason Hickel explains degrowth in this one

Theres a place between living in huts and farming rice and the omnicidal consumption we’re doing in the west. Why even pretend that’s the only 2 modalities?

If we had China’s per capita emissions climate change wouldnt be the dire fucking disaster with a compressing timeline that it is. We could stand to degrow to where China’s at for fucks sake.

Speaking as both a degrowth-er and quasi-China stan, I think it’s one thing to say that developed economies need to implement some form of degrowth and quite another for developing economies like China to do the same. Pushing degrowth on everybody in the world at different levels of development is tantamount to the Global North throwing away the ladder that they used to get so developed, and forbidding anybody from bettering their situations. The United States needs degrowth if the world is to survive. Asking China or India or anywhere else to do something similar where there are still millions living in squalor is disingenuous at best. I recommend you read up a little on what “degrowth” even means, because it decidedly does not mean “going back to living in mud huts and farming rice.” I recommend, as a starting point, Jason Hickel’s “Degrowth: A Call for Radical Abundance” and Giorgos Kallis’ “Degrowth is utopian, and that’s a good thing”

You can totally argue it’s a more well planned, sustainable growth (I’d argue that), but Xi ain’t exactly making people go back to living in mud huts and farming rice now is he.

Degrowth isn’t equivalent to primitivism.