2 months before the unvaxxed get a lower priority of care, itll have to happen sooner or later
Honestly there’s a dehumanization campaign against them rn. They emphasize the chuds, but there’s tons of people who’re avoiding it because they think it costs money or because of the history of the US experimenting on their communities.
I doubt that. The vaccine has been available for so long and made so easy to get and learn about. I really doubt many people are holding out because they think it cost money.
There have definitely been problems with distribution among racist and classist lines. And many people in working poverty cant afford the two days off to get vaccinated
I’m honestly super torn on this. On the one hand it’s dehumanizing and gross, and obviously we should be giving everyone the best medical care we can, regardless of their choices. But on the other hand, would it not be reasonable to move the unvaxxed covid patients down the list when there isn’t enough room? You shouldn’t die of a heart attack because an antivaxxer is taking up the last hospital bed. Idk. I hate the whole situation and I don’t like thinking about it, but if we’ve decided we’re just going to let covid burn and collapse our medical system, I’d rather priority go to the ones that aren’t actively making everything worse? Idk. Gross.
We already triage donor organs based on who is most likely to live a healthy life and make the most use of them. The ethics of that are debatable, but I don’t see much of a difference between ICU beds and organs when we’re dealing with a limited supply.
Of course, the lack of beds could have been prevented while the lack of donor organs is a trickier problem. The people responsible for stripping our hospitals of any excess capacity get the wall.
Yeah exactly. We don’t give liver transplants to active alcoholics, same thing goes for oxygen to antivaxxers when you’re down to triaging.
But also yes, and while I know it will never happen because we live in hell, we need some sort of tribunal to punish the people responsible for this disaster. Personally I’m of the opinion that every US governor and most of the house and senate are guilty of mass murder and deserve either life in prison or execution for their crimes against humanity. And I think such a tribunal should also look further back, and figure out who was responsible for making us so poorly prepared for this in the first place.
Recently where I live a vaccinated person in a nearby town had a breakthrough infection and died because the hospital had too many unvaxxed covid patients to deal with and they couldn’t treat them in time. At the same time anti-mask rallies are being held. It needs to happen sooner rather than later. It’s probably already happening unofficially in the worst hit areas of the country.
The number of excess deaths during the pandemic in the United States is estimated to be more than 900,000.
mainstream media will keep saying this instead of ever using the word million
COVID originated from China (:us-foreign-policy: ) and China = communist
therefore
plus one million to the Victims Of Communism
Don’t worry, vaccines are about to expire for basically everyone over 60 in the next 3 weeks and fall/winter respiratory season is coming. We will be so far over a million by Thanksgiving they will have to switch over.
vaccines are about to expire for basically everyone over 60 in the next 3 weeks
What do you mean?
Okay that was a really bad idea, maybe I’m losing my hard hearted-ness with age but there is some :agony-deep: shit on there holy fuck
Walking into work today I saw “the cold truck”. The entire walkway smelled like dead bodies.
:agony-limitless:
Please let there be a merciful God who will punish the assholes who let it get this bad in the RICHEST COUNTRY ON EARTH
https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/pk3v5e/written_after_a_particularly_hard_day/
:shrek-pixel-despair:
I was watching this live stream of storm chasers during Ida, they were pretty rad dudes and saved quite a few people during some of the flash flooding. Towards the end they were parked near a hospital catching their breath and this nurse came out, didn’t realize anyone was there, and just started wailing. Just absolutely raw at her absolute limit wailing, before going back inside to presumably continue working.
Was absolutely surreal and I’m sure so many of them are going through that and worse right now. It cannot keep up.
america is a fucking disgrace
Conspiracy theory:
The US powers that be know that US infrastructure is held together with scotch tape and chewing gum, and that building additional hospitals would be nearly impossible and this is why they opposed free at the point of delivery healthcare, because they knew it would collapse the system. Private healthcare is kept in place as a rationing mechanism. So when they said M4A would result in a reduced standard of care, it was in good faith. The system cannot be reformed.
Not self preservation in the form of maintaining the system ie in Europe but self preservation in the form of not being able to muster the material to provide Europe-style healthcare and hiding it with Yankee Freedom™️. I don’t know if that makes a difference for us on an organising standpoint but I could believe it. America is really bad at building stuff, barring maybe bombs and prisons.
sorry Im a bit confused. What ur saying is, the powers that be are denying free healthcare because they know that the american populace doesnt really take good care of itself and would use up the system so much it would collapse.
building additional hospitals would be nearly impossible
Could you expand on this?
I’m saying that the US can’t build public goods because neoliberalism destroyed the developmental state, and so they cannot build more hospitals, the state just isn’t capable.
So if the poor people who are denied healthcare now started seeking it, it would put too much strain on the system.
I’ve been thinking similiar things, I just didn’t make the connection to healthcare. I’ve been thinking sometimes that a lot of the disasters we’ve seen recently aren’t just calculated cruelty coming from top down, it could just be that these guys have been huffing so many of their own farts over the last decade we’ve ended up with a clique of entirely stupid and out of touch ideologues. It very well could be that isn’t that we won’t do good things, but the entire state has been hollowed out and can no longer do anything but dispense violence. Look at how awesome our cops are at putting down dissent.
That is indeed true for the democrat left, there’s a certain inertia to public policy and M4A would’ve made things worse by quickly increasing demand before eventually making them better, and since democrats are pusilanimous cowards, they’d much rather not do anything at all before doing anything that could mean an improvement down the road and receive heavy pushback.
