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CIA, the most open intelligence agency in the world, wants to be recognized as an org of high caliber and culturally diverse people who achieve technical and analytic excellence and operational effectiveness in fulfilling their mission with integrity and the trust of the American people.

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Initiate in the near-term the declassification of historical materials on specific events, particularly those which are repeatedly the subject of false allegations, such as the 1948 Italian Elections, 1953 Iranian Coup, 1954 Guatemalan Coup…

Wtf is this shit :gulag:

PAO now has relationships with reporters fro every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation. THis has helped us turn some “intelligence failure” stories into “intelligence success” stories, and it has contributed to the accuracy of countless others…

What happened to the “free press”?

In many instances, we have persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories…

:what-the-hell:

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Yea i don’t get it either. These people actively cause harm around the world and somehow are denying their actions. Like what is the end game here?

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It’s a limited hangout, usually. When it’s clear to everyone they’re involved, they admit part of it so they can deny the rest. Then later on it gets revealed they did all of it, but libs say “that was a long time ago, they’ve changed”. Rinse, repeat.

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What happened to the “free press”?

:astronaut-1: Never has been. Same with “free speech”.

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repeatedly the subject of false allegations, such as the 1948 Italian Elections, 1953 Iranian Coup, 1954 Guatemalan Coup

…is it not proven fact that they did all three of those?

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On Aug. 19, 2013, the CIA publicly admitted for the first time its involvement in the 1953 coup against Iran’s elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

So even in their declassified docs they are lying

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:cia: :stalin-gun-1::michael-laugh:

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I can tell they have had people inside reuters and AP for the past few years. The reporting has changed dramatically.

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Pretty sure AP and Reuters have been stuffed with intelligence agents for a long time. It’s a matter of public record for Reuters at least.

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i’ve never really understood this declassification thing

why do they do it? i mean, i know the law is the law, but they could just lie and/or hide the documents since they’re literally the CIA

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Feeds the narrative that anything bad and abusive was in the past, that things are getting better always and that its irrational to oppose the state nowadays for things in the past.

Also feeds into the bullshit about the west being “honest” and “open” with secrets, to compare to the mean scary commies who wont let the west in to see everything everywhere.

People do unironically believe that things universally and automatically are less bad if you are “honest and open” about it, this is why people act like its irrational to get on the US’s case for cold war shit or even more recent like Abu Ghraib, but will keep hammering on the bullshit “Tiananmen Square Massacre” because they think its more evil to not be “honest” about it. Plus of course all the propaganda against China and all the propaganda that tries to diminish US abuses contributes too, but this is something that is a big part of this mentality.

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They’re… not even honest and open. They declassify things after they can no longer hurt them, or when forced to, then they only declassify part of the truth, etc. It’s all limited hangouts, they’re not volunteering more information than they need to to make themselves look “open”.

Also, as others point out, no one cares. People think these are conspiracy theories. And, to cap it all off, not only would the capitalist press never really spotlight most of it, but they’re also literally in the agency’s pocket as seen here. This shit does not exist to the average person, declassified or not, because there’s no real focus on it in media.

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I mean yeah, but when forcefully faced with this and if they dont just discard it as “conspiracy theories” many people will take the declassification as a sign of progress and liberty and truth and all that.

Its a whole buncha different layers to keep people from actually understanding and grasping the political and historical realities.

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will keep hammering on the bullshit “Tiananmen Square Massacre” because they think its more evil to not be “honest” about it

burns me that they say this even though the Chinese government has never denied the actual events of the day, just the western narrative, and even released a report about the June 4th incident

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Gish gallop, information overload

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Yeah I was gonna say this. I’ve been called a conspiracy theorist by people for referencing events that are described in detail in documents just like this

Kinda boggles my mind but people just dont care lmao

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so in truth the reason why they feel free to release these documents is they know it’s gonna amount to absolutely nothing

it’s like an abusive relationship where the truth is right there in front of your eyes, but you still refuse to believe it because of whatever notions were created in your head by the abuser

some fucking scary shit when you think about it

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as mentioned tangentially in the replies, this is what’s called a limited hangout

pretty sure there’s solid circumstantial evidence that the CIA’s got a much deeper relationship w/ some media than just inviting them to langley to hear about some unclassified stuff, or being cozy w/ reporters that’ll uncritically regurgitate the spin

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This paper opens with them defining the limited hangout. This is the paper that enshrined the modern limited hangout into agency policy.

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Oh good point.

Making your doc detailing limited hangouts itself a limited hangout

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CIA has no styleguide? This writing stinks

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Anyone got a TL;DR for an ADHD comrade off her meds? :stalin-heart:

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Hilariously enough, the CIA provides one on page 5

PAO now has relationships with reporters from every major wire serivce, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation. This has helped us turn some “intelligence failure” stories into “intelligence success” stories. In many instances, we have persauded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could have adversly affected national security interrests or jeopardized sources and methods

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:agony: I hate that they can come right out and say it and the response is a collective shrug if anyone either bothers to acknowledge it

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Welp i guess it’s gonna be a :a-guy: kinda mood today

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:parenti-hands:

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