Just imagine if he won and all his future outreach was for stuff like this instead of supporting generic libs
struggle session 0 let’s GOOOOOOOO!!!
His a us senator. What do you want him to do? Advocate for the citizens of Peru?
Succdems are a net positive, though. They’re not enough, not by a fucking longshot, but they’re obviously a net positive. Standing up to domestic capital is better than not standing up to capital at all. Succdems having more power would have positive material benefits, even if it wouldn’t solve the unfathomable suffering caused by imperialism. For example, it would be better to have universal healthcare but otherwise the status quo than just the status fucking quo. There’s nothing westerncentric about recognizing that and simultaneously continuing to demand an end to capitalism and imperialism entirely.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but what exactly can any of us do to help the average Palestinian? Would not supporting the John Deere strike somehow free up revolutionary resources that could be spent helping non-western workers?
Pointing out that the western left spends more time helping western workers who are massively privileged on a global scale is a completely banal and meaningless point. Building up a “western left” (which, let’s be clear, does not fucking exist outside of fringe forums like this one) will require building leftist politics off the back of western issues, and the process of doing that will improve the lot of western workers before it improves the lot of anybody else.
What happens if the US collapses under its own contradictions and there isn’t a labor movement that can take on whatever hyperreaction comes from the ashes?
Not talking about Bernie, I’m talking about those working class Americans we’re not supposed to care about.
For a time, I really thought people here had purged themselves of succdem-supporting tendencies. Now I’m not so sure.
its hard to have any hope at all living in this shit hole :amerikkka: i would say if this makes ppl happy let em b happy u kno i have absolutely nothing positive happening in my life and my friends are all dead bc this shithole gvmt doesnt give a fuck sbout us addicts aka poors 1 million dead over 10 years just from opioid s alone i was hit by a car on my bicycle earlier this year right around my birthday, and the year before that was rhe year i lost my best friend (he was 26 and worked with autistic children for fucks sake)
so ill feel at least a little happier tonight than my baseline of like -76 (0 being neutral mood) seeing this, personally i wouldnt say being happy about something relatively good (as an amerikan) makes someone a succdem or means they have succdem tendencies. i am basically 97% against them due to their imperialist views and actions and the remaining 3% is just support for things like that, in the OP.
i am basically 97% against them due to their imperialist views and actions and the remaining 3% is just support for things like that, in the OP.
Yeah, agreed. Shit like in the OP is good, and I agree about being happy about it. There are definitely still some people on here who think this type of thing makes succdems OK though, or good, or something along those lines. It’s why we have the occasional arguments over the squad, etc. I don’t mean everyone who thinks this is good is a succdem-supporter, however.
Sorry to hear about your friend, and about you getting hit. :amerikkka: Solidarity, and good luck.
Bernie voted to bomb yugoslavia, he simped for hillary clinton and biden after they stole the primary from him. he called maduro and fidel tyrants, etc… he has also done more to further leftist ideology in this country than everyone on this site combined
Bernie has been a liberal for basically his whole life. He has helped the US war machine kill countless people. No occasional good thing could ever counterbalance that.
If a lib is helping maintain a strike fund using their infrastructure, they’re alright. Bernie is part of the system, but at least he’s capable of occasionally showing solidarity with workers and not just photographing the homeless and drinking wine while the world burns.
I’ve heard a great deal about you, Bernard Sanders. You stole your father’s armor, ran away from home, impersonated a soldier, deceived your commanding officer, dishonored the Chinese Army, destroyed my palace! And you have saved us all.
