I genuinely have no idea where the joke came from but it seems pretty big since I’ve heard it IRL a few times now. Where did this come from?
It probably went from a snowball to an avalanche after Chris Cuomo said “Fredo” was as bad as the n-word.
Pausing to ask if any of the onlookers are Italian, Cuomo adds, “It’s an insult to your fucking people. It’s like the n-word for us.” Then he threatens the man who apparently called him Fredo, saying he’ll “throw you down these stairs like a fucking punk.”
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/8/13/20804039/chris-cuomo-fredo-godfather
He deserves a life sentence for this statement alone before we even get to all of those people he killed
It comes from white US people, who can barely prepare store bought pasta, asserting Italian identity as a way to both claim minority status and superiority to other groups
Actual Italians are pretty dope :gramsci-heh:
I know plenty of chuds who hate African Americans for being lazy/violent while thinking Africans from Africa are hardworking and based. This is an extremely yikes take.
Italian-Americans are in absolutely no sense systematically oppressed and were aggressively incorporated into whiteness post WW1 and WW2. It’s funny as shit. The modern function of whiteness is to shear you from any sense of historical identity so seeing these fully americanized chuds try to claim an ethnicity they no longer have any meaningful relation to is darkly comic in a way.
Also p sure eventually communism will reproduce a monoculture that will render all attachments to historical identity similar to the plight of the current Italian American so it’s a good preview for the theater of the absurd that living in a communist society will entail because God knows not everyone is gonna accept the cultural production of a new organizing economic model that easily.
Actual Italians are ime far more bigoted and almost as goofy as the ones that moved to America.
I’ll take your word for it, I definitely have more exposure to Italian Americans than Italian nationals.
That said, Italian Americans (like most whites in US) have fully bought into the settler colonial project of the US.
Absolutely they have as a condition of being whitified or whatever it is people say, although historically Italian immigrants tended to be less reactionary than WASPs, Spanish, French, etc, but thats all ancient history really. But its like hearing Dutch people complain about Afrikaners, lotta pot-calling-the-kettle-blackface goes on when Euroscum get to feeling superior
There’s a certain type of conservative who is Italian American and that’s who it’s about. They worship Columbus, take pride in his cruelty, and credit the Italian race with civilizing the West. They love the shit out of Trump and all types of reactionary populist (or populist wannabes). They like the mob and treat mobsters as inspirational figures, ones who helped the US government fight against labor and communism. Just a very particular and specific kind of annoying political person. Sort of like the Italian version of a gusano.
But the truth is that we accidentally end up doing a little racism. It’s hard to describe this kind of person without using slurs or lumping in all Italians. Italian people were discriminated against in US history. They were forced to live in slums, had fewer opportunities, and were interned during WWII. Some moved here because they were escaping fascism and they are not to blame.
ITT: oh I love Italians from Italy, they’re so nice and have such an authentic culture!
Italians from Italy: I exclusively vote CasaPound and go to bed every night hoping Il Duce comes back from the dead and personally drowns all the refugees
The truth is, most people you meet from anywhere, even long island probably, are going to be nice and have a lot of things going for them. Lots of beautiful people and cultural richness in every corner of the world. But if you’re gonna be making joking generalizations to take a group down a peg, Italians from Italy are massively soft targets. Its a country where the main form of communication with strangers is shouting removed from a passing auto.
