The good news is it would open the door to eventual EU and NATO membership.

Lol. Lmao, even.

When your job is to think of ideas and half your thesis is what Russia said 2 years ago and the other half is completely ignorant of Russia’s top red line.

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28 points

not like any of their reader base actually listened or read any of Putin’s speeches

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53 points

What the fuck do they think this war is about, that a ceasefire (read: defeat of ukraine) would allow them to join nato

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If Ukraine is reduced to a small territory along Poland’s border, maybe Russia won’t care if they’re in NATO

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33 points

lmao lwów getting annexed just to say “Ukraine is now in NATO!!!” would be the funniest shit ever

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Since this is the dumbest timeline, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it happens.

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9 points

IIRC Russia announced they would go absolutely hog wild in that event and Galicia is not looking good considering how shit Polish politics are rn

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I keep giving NATO free ideas but no one wants to listen. Just let Poland annex the west half of Ukraine. And announce that any foreign military within the borders is a declaration of war against NATO.

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11 points

EU relies on pretending they are the goodies. EU allows the annexation (and thus) destruction of Ukraine and the political landscape will get bonkers.

There are so many far right that want to destroy the EU that would jump on the argument that the EU helped destroy an entire country and burglarise it.

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30 points

Hopefully Putin realizes that any concession will be spun into a Ukrainian victory and spur another generation of Ukrainian revanchists.

Potsdam Declaration style demand of unconditional Ukrainian surrender is the only way forward.

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Don’t make the mistake of letting a west ukraine exist!

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14 points

Yeah otherwise Poland will start drooling and sharpening bayonets

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25 points

putin is weaponizing western media

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25 points

I suspect some form of membership in the EU or Nato will be the consolation prize for the rump state that makes up ukraine.

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EU maybe, NATO idk

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