Socialist theorists and not writing coherently, name a more iconic duo.

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Firm disagree here. It’s a definite strain that comes from the cope around not accepting the privilege created by the imperial core’s stolen wealth, but by no means a majority.

There is a long and very proud history in america of actual socialists / leftists coming from the working class and other marginalized groups.

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What if instead of Google Murray Bookchin it was Google Murray Blockchain and it was just for the… people that use blockchain I do not understand blockchain

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Ironically, fairly early Bookchin is mostly better than late Bookchin. I recommend Post-Scarcity Anarchism.

I like the ideas of Apoism - synthesizing Bookchin with Mao - but everything I can find from Oçalan translated into English is vague as hell.

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Earlyish Bookchin is decent and he made some interesting contributions to anarchist theory, but he needed a goddamn editor. Even his good books are kind of a mess imo.

I have a pretty low tolerance for people who don’t get to the point, for what it’s worth. I have the same criticism of different marxist-adjacent writers as well (zizek comes to mind).

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:zizek-fuck: (schniff)

“and now I will write sho terribly about ze philosophy of gender that othersh zink I am a transhphobe deshpite jusht being a dumbash and sho on and sho forth”

Seriously, read his shitty article on gender liberation where he makes up his own definition of gender and then argues about it with himself while not clearly even switching perspectives. Complete fucking mess.

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This is like when I bought The Sublime Object of Ideology and I opened it and was like “wait now who is this lacan fella”

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Bookchin was apparently an Ayn Rand fan 😬

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I don’t wanna get into the territory of sexual pathology as politics, but Rand apparently had some kind of submission and/or rape fetish that probably leaked into her general worldview

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Internalized misogyny is a fuck. Rand wrote a lot in Atlas Shrugged about it somehow being empowering for women to “allow” themselves to be owned by men.

If you don’t reconcile or accept your fetishes / sexuality, it will absolutely come out in random unhealthy ways that are extremely obvious to everyone else.

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Rand wrote a lot in Atlas Shrugged about it somehow being empowering for women to “allow” themselves to be owned by men.

It’s like she’s the evil mirror universe version of William Moulton Marston.

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As someone who has read Atlas Shrugged, yeah, she does. Like, it’s not even subtle. Every sex scene in that book is gross. And apparently Fountainhead is worse? What a world.

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He has “mixed feelings” about them, then immediately goes into fanboy trivia about his favorite character

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And mixes up private and personal property throughout, which is fucking weird for an anarchist to do.

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Well he is on record saying that he would side with ancaps and libertarians against AUTHORITARIAN LEFTISTS (mls , leninists ,maoists etc)…

We like to mock takes like that as “reddit anarchist” phenomenon but fucking popular figureheads of “libleft” thought have these wall worthy radlib “viewpoints”. Too much chomsky or Bookchin rots the brain

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Sectarian brainworms in general are cringe and don’t reflect the realty of leftism in the imperial core. Important not to read any theory as scripture, leads you down the path of the armchair lifestylist.

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