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Established by Steve Bannon

Oh god please, at list find someone vaguely chinese

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I was watching a documentary about those weird ass libs that built the Biosphere 2 in the 90s and all the sudden at the end Steve Bannon showed up…is this anything like that?

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I read a hilarious set of fake ‘debate questions’ from the 2016 primaries, and there was one about Bannon and Biosphere 2.

Biosphere 2 was an attempt to create a self-sustaining closed ecosystem capable of supporting human life, possibly with applications for future space travel. It was actually the first such attempt – it was called “Biosphere 2” because the first such self-sustaining biosphere was the Earth itself. Eight “crew members” entered the facility along with various plants and animals, the airlocks were sealed, and for a year everyone tried to do what they could to keep the various species and environmental parameters in balance.

It didn’t work; CO2 levels started fluctuating wildly, soil microbes surged out of control, ants and cockroaches overran the facility, oxygen dropped to worrying levels, and the experiment was stopped early out of concern for crew health. They decided to try a second mission, and that was when they had a change in management and brought on Mr. Bannon as director.

Unfortunately, a lot of the crew members really didn’t like Bannon and his team. Possibly some of it had to do with an incident where a crew member submitted a list of safety complaints and Bannon threatened to “shove it down her f**king throat”. It got so bad that some of the crew deliberately vandalized the Biosphere, causing gas exchange between the inside and the outside and ruining the scientific value of the experiment. Although they probably could have tried again, by that time lawsuits and financial mismanagement had sapped their funding, and they finally sold the whole thing off to Columbia University as a research campus.

So my question for [Trump] is: in all of history, there have only been two self-sufficient ecosystems capable of maintaining human life. Your team has already destroyed one of them. The other is Earth. How scared should we be?

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Haha that’s brilliant, I’ve read about Biosphere 2 but had no idea Bannon was somehow involved, wtf.

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John Kerry

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“Government in exile”

They found a way to have even less legitimacy than Guaido.

Also surely someone running this thing recognizes the connotation of the phrase 新中国, right?

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没有共产党就没有新中国!

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it’s hard to translate directly into English because there’s a lot of nuance that westerners aren’t culturally prepared for, but a rough approximation would be something along the lines of “pig poop balls”

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Seems to literally mean New China, but idk much Chinese history, so idk what connotation they mean

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“New China” almost always refers to communist China post 1949, its used in so much propaganda its pretty much ubiquitous with the communism nowadays

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It’d be kinda like making a Russian “government in exile”, calling it the “united super sexy russians” and asking people to refer to it as the USSR.

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The term is usually used to refer to specifically the revolutionary, post-1949 China and especially the Mao era, and is common in red songs and slogans, especially during the life of Chairman Mao.

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What is the connotation? I don’t speak chinese

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The term is usually used to refer to specifically the revolutionary, post-1949 China and especially the Mao era, and is common in red songs and slogans, especially during the life of Chairman Mao.

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lmao makes sense for bannon

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New Middle Kingdom?

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中国(Zhōngguó) technically would mean something like that if you look at the characters on their own, but together they are one of the names of China.

新中国(xīn Zhōngguó,New China) is a term that usually has Communist connotations in modern political use, and was common in red songs and party slogans.

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Isn’t there already a government in exile? Why would they opt for these guys over Taiwan?

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Isn’t there also the cultural influence of the Mandate of Heaven? Or does that not really influence people any more. Wouldn’t be surprised as China’s seen massive increases in material conditions over the past century and that’s probably gonna influence people more than tradition.

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Why would they opt for these guys over Taiwan

I’m not expert in Taiwanese politics, but my guess is that most Taiwanese consider themselves independent from China, and don’t really want to reunite. Please don’t quote me on this, however.

Here is a Wikipedia article about the Taiwan independence movement. [CW: Liberalism]

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It’s 2004 Iraqi Governing Council proposed flag bad.

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