6 states siding against a supreme court decision to deny access to federal authorities seems big, if thats happened in my lifetime I’ve not heard of it before

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It’s republicans grandstanding to impress their racist base.

It’s technically sedition and if democrats wanted to they could arrest or kill them all, but they are cowards.

So instead it will just blow over. It’s nothing. It will lead to nothing. It’s just stupid pandering for racist scum.

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It’s technically sedition and if democrats wanted to they could arrest or kill them all, but they are cowards.

The echos of the Buchanan administration are palpable.

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49 points

The echos of JDAMs hitting Texas National Guard positions should be audible. : (

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Wouldn’t even be necessary: the best parallel is Alabama using its National Guard to block school integration, then Eisenhower federalizing the Guard and eventually arresting the governor when he physically stood in the way.

Even such an obvious precedent that would involve zero violence is apparently too much for Biden to handle.

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It’s nothing.

It’s a demonstration that the US federal government does not exist in any meaningful sense. That’s not nothing and very soon it’ll lead to things that are even more not nothing

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Its something and nothing at the same time. It is yet another demonstration that the fed government doesn’t want/can’t govern, and it is a constitutional crisis. But the actors involved are only pushing this for pandering/grandstanding for electoral ends. They aren’t pushing this to actually secceed or push any political agenda beyond elections. That’s what makes it nothing.

Its the same way Jan 6 was nothing because even though it was inserectionist the peoppe there had no clue what they were doing beyond the spectacle of it and what they were doing was never going to matter beyond spectacle.

I agree that the implications are down the line. That’s how cynical pandering to the chud base has always worked. Its hard to say when any of this will lead to an actual “something” though. Eventually yeah the chuds aren’t going to be happy until they order the national guard to open fire on the feds, but at that point even the base is still only politically engaged in that spectacle and not its implications. That’s why people at Jan 6th thought they could just fly home like nothing happened, because they are completely detached and unaware of the implications.

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it means that mayobrained right-wingers perceive the racist violent federal border agents as “not being racist and violent enough”

They’re stepping in to do the work for free, and the feds look at it and shrug their shoulders and think “eh sure why not”

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Wishful thinking I’m afraid

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I have a hard time thinking of a clearer example that libs are going to do absolutely to oppose fascists while they ignore anything even approximating laws.

Basically it’s going to make dems look like the completely useless kicking bags we’ve all been saying theybwere for a decade.

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If they were to allow Texas to do anything it wanted then sure, you’d be right. Some governors saying they side with Texas against the Supreme Court (when they aren’t technically violating what they’ve said yet) doesn’t mean anything.

The Supreme Court says the federal government can cut through the razorwire to reach where they need to reach. It doesn’t say Texas can’t put razorwire up, so they haven’t violated that. It’s 100% nothing for now. If Texas decides it wants to turn it into something and stop the federal agents from doing their job, then it becomes something.

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Yeah, i agree with this. Its technically a huge thing, a real constitutional crisis if this was a functioning government. But even in something like this, its not even meant to be real politics, just pandering. Like these libs and chuds will literally take their pandering to what should be the brink, but its ultimately empty and meaningless

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You want to maintain empire, you better be willing to enforce it’s primacy. A truly “American” president would have meal team 6 merc Abbot within the hour. No trial, no deliberation, straight up kill the challengers of the union.

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76 points

Every dem voter is going to get an email citing it as more evidence that Democracy Is On The Ballot and demanding more donations.

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47 points

“The South is rising in revolt and I am doing everything I can to encourage them. Here’s why I need you to open your wallet and pour out the last few pathetic copper fennigs stuck to a piece of gum in the bottom to aid my path to the white house where I will make your life measurably worse”

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Better than any Biden pitch I’ve heard so far

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We need to let the voters decide whether to enforce sedition laws. Make sure to Biden to force him to do something.

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19 points

“Also there is literally nothing Biden could do about the situation so don’t ask”

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75 points

Yeah. It’s sedition. The feds should have everyone involved, at minimum, gitmo’d, if not hung. It’s a big deal. This is balkanization/civil war stuff. The feds have total, unambiguous authority over the border and the states have zero, zip, nada.

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53 points

It’s wild they haven’t moved to shooting yet. BLM faced more persecution blocking a road to ask for police reform. These hogs are doing such a fundamentally illegal thing that a whole civil war was fought to decide the very issue of state authority and Biden doesn’t know whether to kiss them on the lips or give them all of their demands. The democrats could have had a huge groundswell of support for any action they take like they did with January 6th, but they’ve spent the last three years trying to prove to republicans that their border policy is just as fascistic. All of the orgs dedicated to that issue are now vote machines for the democrats or are opposed to them.

If the feds do something like Waco or Ruby Ridge they don’t have my support. If they do that level of violence here, that’s the clearest case for its justified use to the broadest number of people. I’d clap like I did on January 6th whenever anyone on either side got what they both deserve.

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44 points

It goes back at least as far as O’Bummer, too. His border policy was “I am going to do everything the fascists demand because then they will like me and invite me to their tea parties.” Sucks. the democrats never had a solution to the GOP. idk. Bunch of wack ass fucking model UN losers. You can’t fight fascism with a more borng, pedantic, multicultural fascism, it turns out.

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BLM faced more persecution blocking a road to ask for police reform.

That’s because it was leftist. The Texan hogs just want to do a particular fascist thing slightly differently than the way the federal government wants it done.

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28 points

if not hung

hanged

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34 points

Hunged

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I agree, except i think it will probably blow over without any direct consequences for now (they’ll come down the line). The reason i think this is because while it is sedition - the states/governors are only engaged for the spectacle of it as a grandstand to the hogs. They aren’t politically engaged in pushing for actual secession or balkanize, because that isn’t their goal. And i don’t think the Biden Admin is going to do much but fundraise off this and call it a win/win for politicians in both parties.

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72 points

6 states siding against a supreme court decision to deny access to federal authorities seems big,

25 now

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53 points

Over a completely fictitious, made up, bullshit “crisis” that doesn’t exist and, I cannot stress this enough, is fake.

Do you think they factored in rising food prices caused by scaring off all the migrant farm labor as a calculated way to make Muricans poorer and more miserable so they’ll blame it on Joe?

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Lol it really does feel like kayfab shit

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6 points

6 million illegal immigrants in 3 years. Thats a crisis in something

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33 points

we need to do something about 6 million unwelcome people you say

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32 points

No it’s fucking not.

2 million immigrants a year into a country with large swaths of it that have single didgit population density per square mile is not a crisis to anybody that isn’t a bald faced fascist.

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Fuck off loser lmfao

Edit: that phrasing was incredibly misleading lmao nvmd

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Edit: read below where you clarified. This wasn’t the best wording lol. I went straight for the tactical PPB

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21 points

no more half measures walter

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The fuck, really!?!??

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16 points

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Lol, lmao.

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14 points

26 including TX

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10 points

The Liberal Dropsite Massacre

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Right now it’s political theater, but it’s planting the seeds for something in the future to be more than just theater

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exactly and unfortunately it does set the table for some nasty shit. not like 1860’s civil war as so many envision it though. the fort sumter in this case is much more likely to be something like a wave of pickup truck pogroms in minority areas and the local/state pigs basically refuse to investigate themselves.

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Bleeding Kansas 2.0.

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16 points

Yeah, call me when there’s blue on blue fire.

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18 points

Enjoy your daily calls from the IOF.

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