Gravel gives a brief but overall correct take on the current sitch.
Gravel kids: Here’s a video specifically about how funding and weapons from the US went into the hands of Neo-Nazis.
Libs: BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH RUSSIANS
State dept brainworm holdovers and a desperate belief that things can be simple and easily sorted into good vs bad, and that the US can and should play a role in this. I don’t personally see how adding more fuel to the fire would help, but that’s just me. And hey, maybe if the last 20 years of foreign intervention hadn’t been so awful, criminal, and absolutely loaded to the brim with unnecessary murder, maybe there’d be some stomach to actually try and intervene as a force for good, for once.
If I were more conspiratorially minded, I’d say this is a great way to divide “the left” over a bullshit lost cause that they have zero personal stake in or any means to affect the outcome of, much like the Uighurs in China or any other hot-button topic of foreign policy. Then I remembered “the left” doesn’t exist and that there are probably more active never-nudes in the US than any semblance of an organized “left” to warrant such a conspiracy in the first place.
In either case, antiwar groups have been consistently more right about all these hot-button issues than any politician promising “committments”, “guaranteees”, or vague “standing withs” (but mostly behind) about Ukraine.
This happened during WWI. Lots of so called socialists supported their country’s war effort because they believed it would somehow help socialism. Of course, not everyone was stupid enough to fall for that :lenin-cat:
Yeah a lot of “Western leftist” takes in there (for example it’s debatable whether Yanukovich was “pro-Russian” or just not sufficiently “anti-Russian”), along with brainworm liberals just repeating US talking points. The video also calls the events of 2014 a “revolution” rather than a coup, which is kinda meh but whatever. What’s super :cringe: is when the video refernces Bellingcat… smh
It’s an “NGO” funded by the State Department that does the kinda shit the CIA did during the Cold War
Ew. I don’t understand these people, Adam Something has good videos criticizing Elon Musk and shitty “futuristic” transport ideas and concepts, attacks the car industry and car culture and promotes pedestrian-friendly cities. So, what I’m saying here is that they know something about a specific area of human development, something I can appreciate.
But then they decide to become some sort of “I can speak about everything” kind of guy and suddenly they are talking about fucking foreign policy, and surprise surprise, he sucks at it. And the thumbnail, holy shit that thumbnail. Aggressive russian bear on one side, pacifist good looking EU flag without any harmful intentions on the other… yeah, fucking radlib.
At least they referenced the John Mearsheimer vid, which I have issues with but is much better to send to libs.
The dangerous tendency for leftists to put people who disagree with them on one thing on the same level of actual cryptofascists.
great to see this from Gravel, its funny how many ppl are mad at it
