Quite the unpopular opinion, but I just wanted to post this to show the silent majority that we still exist. We have reached a point where voicing criticism against wayland is treated like the worst thing ever and leads you to being censored and what not. The red hat funded multi year long shill campaign has proven to be quite successful. Now do the same for immutable distros and every new buzzword that restricts your ability to make changes to your system and the long term plan of completely sabotaging the linux desktop will finally come true. That is all.

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We read you the first time. Please stop recreating accounts to post the same over and over.

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Xorg? Wayland? You have bespoke protocols just for windowed graphics? I’m happy with my /dev/draw and /dev/wsys/*

Unix is a zombie OS that should probably die

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I’m using Fedora Atomic Budgie right now, and I’m of the viewpoint that I want my system to be my system. That is why I used Arch / Artix for so long.

Eventually however, I tried out Atomic distros in VMs and initially disliked their “restrictive” nature. But after too many random breakages on Arch, I went for it on my desktop as I imagined it’d be good for reliability.

That was about 2 months ago, and the very same install is still going strong on my desktop and now laptop too (which I’m writing this on). That is hands-down the longest a single instance has continued to exist for me. I love it.

I think we need to reconsider everything about the “Linux desktop” we all dream of. Let’s say we get 60% of existing Windows users onto our side in the next 5 years. That is a lot of people. Too many people for us to assume they’re all willing to embrace the total freedom we advertise. This is where we need to go, we need more standardization across the board. I’m almost at the point where I’d only recommend Atomic distros to new users, as new users are going to be scared off if something spontaneously breaks. New users are also going to be inquisitive, so they may cause breakages.

Wayland is just overall the next step, X.Org is older than me, older than many of us to be honest. If projects are left abandoned due to the complexity of Wayland, oh well? The fraction of the userbase that used those projects are just gonna have to get with the times I’m afraid.

Linux needs to grow-up a bit, Windows is getting more and more enshittified by the week. Sooner or later it’s gonna reach a tipping point and people are start dropping off and coming to us. We need to prepare for an influx of “normies” essentially. Because of that, I welcome Atomicity, Wayland and other evil evil oh so terrible things that “corpos” are doing.

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The problem with trying to ignore Wayland is that Xorg is abandonware.

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