Aside from the obvious fact that an abortion ban would allow the Democrats to do nothing and say “vote blue to get abortion rights back” forever as well as the fact that most Democratic voters are upper-middle class white collar workers who wouldn’t really be affected by the ban. My theory is that the elites are realizing that America is demographically screwed. For years, Americans bragged about how China is never going to be a superpower because of its low fertility rate. But with a collapse in immigration rates under Trump and COVID as well as Zoomers/Millennials not having kids because they cannot afford it, it’s looking like America is entering its own demographic crisis. Even Muskrat was talking about this. When you have no one to buy your junk, then the American economy grinds to a halt. My theory is that failsons like Musk will start a massive push to end abortion in order to increase the birth rate so the capitalist system in the west survives just a little longer. and that Democrats will play right along.

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I don’t think the ruling class can see that far ahead tbh. The capitalist class as-is has barely any concept of object permanence beyond quarterly profit reports, choosing to rely on the inevitable government bailout when any setback occurs, as frequently happens. Our governments can barely comprehend the concept of the cyclical passage of seasons, as evidenced by their weird gloating about how we’ll magically put up with lack of Russian gas since it’s summer now.

Almost all developed nations (China included) have slow to null birth rates. It’s not just due to the expense of having a child, but also the lack of a necessity of doing so. Literal proletarians in developing nations have nothing to offer but labor-power and that can be achieved by having children which sadly have to enter the workforce at very young ages in order to earn something for the family to subsist, whether it’s working on the family farm or digging cobalt in a cramped mine tunnel for Elon, Cook, Bezos and Ma.

Democrats do not actually care about abortion rights, because, as you said, they are not only insulated from its potential side-effects, but it’s also not an industry that capital deems necessary. Even the for-profit model of the US doesn’t generate nearly as much profit as other medical procedures and has annoying legal issues to deal with as well. There is no benefit for the capitalist class in keeping abortions or really any kind of reproductive medicine. It all really does come down to the necessity for capital. Capital will find a way to keep any awful, harmful, inefficient, obsolescent industry afloat; just look at the corn and gas lobbies and how the US economy is so massively dependent on corn by-products just to keep entire industries and side industries solvent. It just so happens that reproductive medicine doesn’t generate the same rate of profit, so liberals have no real stake in allowing it to exist.

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They have been pushing for a pro-life caucus within the Dems for at least a few years now. They think it’s an issue that hurts them with religious voters.

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I assume the dem machine wants the GOP justices to just out-and-out kill Roe and ban abortion nationwide. Dem voters will be irrationally angry and fearful. They’ll believe all the dem’s bullshit and lies about making abortion legal again once they are in power.

Of course - the dems will pretend their stance doesn’t put our democracy in even great danger. For example if the GOP captures enough state legislatures, they can call a Constitutional Convention to change the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights.

The dems will ignore that. All they are focused on is that for a very long time (A decade? Decades?) - they can easily fund raise off abortion, their base will be super-energized, and campaigning will be simple. A ham sandwich could run for office if they proudly proclaim they are pro-choice even if that too is probably a lie.

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Agreed. Dems could have passed legislation many times now making abortion protections the law of the land, instead of just relying on Roe, and they haven’t. They also could have prevented Republicans from forcing two justices onto the court, knowing that would lead to Roe being overturned, among many other consequences.

If they wanted to defend abortion, they would have done so.

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And - although this purely theoretical - Biden and the dems could have packed the court last year. Plus - it’s possible Biden is more religious than he seems and all this time he might have been strongly anti-abortion but he kept it quiet for political reasons. In 1973 he was sworn in as a senator just a few weeks before Roe was decided.

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most Democratic voters are upper-middle class white collar workers who wouldn’t really be affected by the ban

why idgi

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They can travel to another country for an abortion.

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Or a blue state.

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Gotcha

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