In a just world, after this is all over members of the Knesset and IOF must be hanged for crimes against humanity and Israel should receive the Rhodesia treatment
I remember how German citizens were forced to see the concentration camps when the Nazis were defeated.
With that in mind, Israelis must be forced to see what they have done. All Israelis have to be forced to see the concentration camp. Conscript IDF members to dig bodies out of the rubble. Make them learn the names of the people they murdered. I don’t think support would be nearly as high if they were actually looking.
Sure there’s some psychopaths but I really think the majority are just indoctrinated and insulated. They could be reeducated.
Sure there’s some psychopaths but I really think the majority are just indoctrinated and insulated. They could be reeducated.
Nah, Stalin got it right the first time when he said they should execute 50,000 Nazi officers; apply his thinking here and maybe this time don’t be so conservative.
I don’t think those ideas conflict; Execute every last one of the officers (and the Knesset) and force the non-officers and civilians who supported this to do the cleanup.
And instead of killing them Dulles and the rest of the Nazi US government gave them jobs in NATO, the CIA, the West German government etc. very cool.
The more you learn the more the phrase “Nazism wasn’t defeated in WW2, it was internationalised” makes sense.
Israelis DO see what they’re doing. They love it. Perhaps except the liberals and the communists that work with Palestinians.
They see very little, actually. Soldiers see the people they kill on little screens, from a long distance away and sometimes without color. Civilians back home don’t even see that, they just see propaganda.
And it’s not just literally seeing that I’m talking about. Can they hear the begging and crying children? Can they smell the burning corpses and open defecation? Taste the air filled choked with silicates and smoke? There’s a whole sensory experience of this genocide that they’re missing out on. I want to rub it in, make it stick.
They sit on hills in lawn chairs and laugh and cheer as they watch bombs land on children! They have no morals, they are evil and should be executed, they will not feel bad for what they’ve done
No, they watch bombs land on distant objects. They don’t see the children and they’d respond far differently if they had to dig through the rubble for body parts.
Imagine for a second what a mass execution on that scale does to the society that perpetrates it, especially those directly doing it. Killing hollows people out. No matter how justified. It hurts the person doing it. I mean thats an underdiscussed problem with the death penalty, the fact that it turns the executioner into a killer. I dont want to share space with someone capable of the coldness necessary to carry out state murder.
Its simply not practical, even if you think it is justified (and as a strict rehabilitationist, i would argue against that too).
Also institutions of mass execution have a way of self perpetuating.
Im fucking infuriated by this article too. And my first gut is blood for blood too. But when i think about the consequences of that, I know its not right.
Nah, the Israelis support this pretty much across the board, acting like they just don’t know what they do is incredibly naive.
I’m certain a lot of them only support it in an abstract sense and don’t grasp what they’re actually supporting. Internal media doesn’t show the bodies being dug out of the rubble or the literal thousands of mutilated children or interviews with the survivors or the other horrors in the Gaza concentration camp. I’m certain if we rubbed it in that the crimes would sink in. They’re still human, they just aren’t seeing.
I believe the majority of the israeli people would clap and guffaw when seeing what the idf has done, i think their indoctienation unironically goes deeper than ww2 germans
You might want to learn some history of what concentration camps are and what their purpose is. Start with the second Boer War.
Wishing a thousand more October 7ths on the genocidal settler state
The number of Palestinians slaughtered by the genocidal Israeli state is much higher than 30k. History did not begin on October 7, 2023. Abolishing the Israeli state and returning the stolen land to its rightful Palestinian owners will end the conflict. We want peace more than anything else, but while the violence continues, Palestinians have the right to resist their oppressors by any means necessary.
We totally need that 7 more times!!!1111
I said October 7th a thousand more times, dumbass. Most literate Zionist.
Are you done repeating your npc lines?
What you seem to understand but refuse to accept is that Israel is a settler colonial state commiting genocide and ethnic cleansing on the Palestinian people. In fact Israel’s whole foundation was an illegitimate state being created by ethnically cleansing the local population.
Hamas( qassam brigades) is a legitimate armed resistance against an occupier ( Israel). In fact, according to international law, Hamas has more legitimacy defending themselves against Israel than Israel does to “defend” itself from the people they are occupying.
Israel has been the colonial occupier for 75 years. Ever since then they’ve been conducting terror campaigns of ethnic cleansing against Palestinians. And now their genocidal intentions are plain for even the most unwilling to see.
So when someone says death to Israel, they mean death to the settler colonial genocidal state of Israel. So saying that absolutely does make sense. And hopefully from that will come a single secular state where the Palestinians can live as equals with israelis, and not be treated as subhuman slaves.
So I’m telling you all of this to hopfully spark some awareness in you, if not now then maybe sometime you’ll think back on this. But i know you’ll probably just continue trolling. One can only hope for the best.
where the Palestinians can live as equals with israelis
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That’s impossible, the colonizers and the colonized can never live as equals.
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Kicking out colonizers is cool and good, actually.
What do you even say at this point
“That every day this evil is allowed to persist is a crime against humanity”
I am once again posting Aime Cesaire. Discourse on Colonialism is such an essential reading, imo. It is so powerful, and it’s haunting how aptly it describes israel.
TW: mention of violence, SA, racism
spoiler
First we must study how colonization works to decivilize the colonizer, to brutalize him in the true sense of the word, to degrade him, to awaken him to buried instincts, to covetousness, violence, race hatred, and moral relativism; and we must show that each time a head is cut off or an eye put out in Vietnam and in France they accept the fact, each time a little girl is r*ped and in France they accept the fact, each time a Madagascan is tortured and in France they accept the fact, civilization acquires another dead weight, a universal regression takes place, a gangrene sets in, a center of infection begins to spread; and that at the end of all these treaties that have been violated, all these lies that have been propagated, all these punitive expeditions that have been tolerated, all these prisoners who have been tied up and interrogated, all these patriots who have been tortured, at the end of all the racial pride that has been encouraged, all the boastfulness that has been displayed, a poison has been instilled into the veins of Europe and, slowly but surely, the continent proceeds toward savagery.
And then one fine day the bourgeoisie is awakened by a terrific reverse shock: the gestapos are busy, the prisons fill up, the torturers around the racks invent, refine, discuss.
People are surprised, they become indignant. They say: “How strange! But never mind — it’s Nazism, it will pass!” And they wait, and they hope; and they hide the truth from themselves, that it is barbarism, but the supreme barbarism, the crowning barbarism that sums up all the daily barbarisms; that it is Nazism, yes, but that before they were its victims, they were its accomplices; that they tolerated that Nazism before it was inflicted on them, that they absolved it, shut their eyes to it, legitimized it, because, until then, it had been applied only to non-European peoples; that they have cultivated that Nazism, that they are responsible for it, and that before engulfing the whole of Western, Christian civilization in its reddened waters, it oozes, seeps, and trickles from every crack.
Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the c**lies of India, and the blacks of Africa.
And that is the great thing I hold against pseudo-humanism: that for too long it has diminished the rights of man, that its concept of those rights has been — and still is — narrow and fragmentary, incomplete and biased and, all things considered, sordidly racist.
I have talked a good deal about Hitler. Because he deserves it: he makes it possible to see things on a large scale and to grasp the fact that capitalist society, at its present stage, is incapable of establishing a concept of the rights of all men, just as it has proved incapable of establishing a system of individual ethics. Whether one likes it or not, at the end of the blind alley that is Europe, I mean the Europe of Adenauer, Schuman, Bidault, and a few others, there is Hitler. At the end of capitalism, which is eager to outlive its day, there is Hitler. At the end of formal humanism and philosophic renunciation, there is Hitler.
Death to Israel.
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
