I was at a party a while ago and discussion turned drunkenly to politics (mostly comrades and a few apolitical people)
After one guy explained in detail what his ideal world looked like I looked him dead in the eyes and was like, ah so you’re a Posadist. He had never heard the term lol he just basically made it up on his own.
I like that no matter how weird a comrade can be, it’s always the case their take is identical to some long forgotten leftist dispute and there are entire journals dedicated to it.
This is because Posadism is the one true tendency and real materialists will reach it on their own inevitably
Ah, with cranks like these leading the parties, revolution is imminent
I love meeting some guy who’s like 75 and had almost the exact same politics as me but like also believes flouride in the water is turning us into slaves.
Please don’t give in to anti-science nonsense like “the moon landings were faked.” That’s no different than believing COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
As long as the anti-science isn’t actively harming people, like vaccine stuff, I think it’s always better to engage in the discussions, because that’s how learning happens. If someone doubted that particles and waves were the same, would you admonish them? Nah, you just explain the double slit experiment. You can often learn something from the discussion even if you already understand that it’s anti-science nonsense. For example, debunking flat eartherism can teach you cool little trigonometric proofs.
There are literally reflectors on the moon left by the manned moon missions that are used to measure the distance of the moon using laser pulses. And the US and Soviets have both used them, so unless there was a global commie/capitalist conspiracy…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
so unless there was a global commie/capitalist conspiracy
Some Russians think Brezhnev traded complicity in the moon landing for a gradual draw down of American troops in Vietnam, which Nixon began in 1969.
Would the Soviets trade a major propaganda victory to save tens of thousands of lives? I don’t know.
The Soviets have also placed verifiable retroreflectors on the Moon.
That’s no different than believing COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
acktszchtchyually, it would be analogous to believing that COVID-19 is a US bioweapon (which it is)
This is one of my favorite conspiracies but I believe that Apollo 11 left a reflector on the moon that’s been used since then to check the exact distance the moon is from earth. It’s still operational, even (afaik).
It’s a big mirror, it shouldn’t ever stop working unless it gets hit by something.
But then again, whose to say they didn’t drop an unmanned lunar lander on the moon and then bring in Kubrick to fake the rest of it :illuminati:
But then again, whose to say they didn’t drop an unmanned lunar lander on the moon and then bring in Kubrick to fake the rest of it
the point of the space race (especially from the US side as Sputnik was launched on a whim by some soviet scientists just trying shit) was to show off missile technology without the overt aggression of nuclear tests. An unmanned mission would be just as good for the actual purpose
The first unmanned landing on the moon was in 1966 by the Soviet Luna 9 probe, in order for there to be anything for the Americans to claim as groundbreaking they would have had to fake their unmanned landing actually being a manned landing.
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for the record i don’t actually believe Apollo 11 was faked, i’m doing as bit
Nah manned mission is 2-way and involves life support systems. It’s much harder and shows much more mastery of rocketry and all that
Carl Sagan and Gerard Kuiper should have just nuked the moon. :posadist-nuke:
Fun fact: Gerard Kuiper was a student of Antonie Pannekoek.
My favorite fake moon landing joke is that Kubrick was brought in to fake the whole thing, but being an auteur he insisted on filming on location.
My second favorite fake moon landing thing is the old Battlezone game, where the moon landings happened, but they were a diversion for moving a large army of anti-gravity space tanks to the moon to fight the Soviets.
It’s also possible to just see the lunar lander stuff on the surface with a powerful enough telescope
I don’t think this is true. Even the Hubble Telescope isn’t powerful enough to resolve the landing sites. You have to use lunar orbital satellites to see anything worthwhile.
You’re correct. They’re called Lunar Laser Ranging Retroreflectors.
NASA installed three and the Soviet Union installed two.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon
I didn’t learn about the Soviet ones until last year, and I did a lot of research on the Space Race to create this meme three years ago.
signal […] coming from the Moon
Could be accomplished with a radio repeater dropped by Apollo 10. :shrug-outta-hecks:
That second part really caught me off guard