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:angery: I long since gave up hope after finishing book 5 but I would still read it if it ever did come out.

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I don’t think I could ever force myself to read through them again, they’re such a slog when there’s a multi page description of what they’re eating for dinner or what the banners of each of the 20 some houses in a battle look like.

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TBH (as someone completely unfamiliar with ASoIF) it can’t be worse than trying to read about all the jangling mail shirts or lineages of The Iliad

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You can’t reread GOT becaof the food porn

I only watched/read GOT for the food porn

We are not the same

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If he had paid off those food descriptions with famine descriptions once winter started, it would have been perfect grimdark slop. Imagine every evil person in Westwood paling in comparison to the damage wrought by the weather.

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Meat Loaf isn’t a celebrity to you?

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it wasn’t getting finished before this, either.

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Do you think he’s rich enough to afford whatevers keeping all the old political ghouls alive

Also do y’all ever wonder if the reason the book is taking so long is because the TV show ending is how he was actually going to do it but he saw how hated it was and is now just in a panic unable to think of a good ending

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I have a feeling all the “big” stuff is mostly the same, like John killing dany, him going back to the wall, dany losing it and slaughtering innocent people, all that. Those pieces were fine. They could easily be written to work. The show runners are just fucking horrible at their job and mashed all this shit into a season that was shorter than usual. People hated it because it was forced. In theory the book shihave plenty more time to make sense

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Same, I didn’t have an issue with what happened so much as how it happened. For example, the fact that Dany lost her second dragon was fine, but the way it happened was plain stupid. The guy who did it uses magic in the books, but in the show they basically cut that and replaced the spooky dread captain with a generic, but edgy pirate.

Instead of a magical explanation for why his fleets are overpowered, or why he has so many ships. It’s just kind of written off as 'they made some ships (despite his island specifically having no trees or natural resources, ya know, the reason they’re raiders) and a nearly deus ex machina technological improvement that counters dragons.

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Dany in Westeros was never going to make sense with the entire fAegon plot axed.

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Absolutely

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If its anything like Dance of Dragons, nothing of value will be lost.

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isn’t it kind of ghoulish to speculate on how a mans death might affect the flow of treats

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No

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Not really in this case. If you found out a cook at a restaurant you’d eaten at and liked was ill, I wouldn’t expect you to really care much besides that you can’t eat their cooking anymore. You just enjoy what they produce, any other feeling you might have is purely parasocial. There’s nothing wrong if you feel super sad when a favorite author or creator in general dies, we all get parasocial more or less sometimes, but it certainly wouldn’t be something I would care about if you didn’t care.

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it’s less about a personal relationship and more about the level of consideration that is still owed a complete stranger. I don’t think much either way about the guy but I find public speculation about someones death a bit tasteless

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I guess it’s just a difference in values then.

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A little, but the real ghoulish thing is the push for the treats to keep flowing.

The production of cultural products is becoming so completely commoditized and alienated from its producers that we’re already looking back with nostalgia on the days when that flow actually did stop. Sure I’d rather GRRM live to finish it, but there is far more comfort in the idea that he can still choose for it to end with him and escape becoming immortalized only as a zombie twitter account hocking NFTs for Disney.

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A little, but the real ghoulish thing is the push for the treats to keep flowing.

The production of cultural products is becoming so completely commoditized and alienated from its producers that we’re already looking back with nostalgia on the days when that flow actually did stop. Sure I’d rather GRRM live to finish it, but there is far more comfort in the idea that he can still choose for it to end with him and escape becoming immortalized only as a zombie twitter account hocking NFTs for Disney.

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