If he had stuck strictly to cops, we’d be all good, but one of the first people he murdered wasn’t one.

Going after the families of bad people when they really didn’t play any role in the bad person’s actions is abhorrent and indefensible. Kids shouldn’t have to pay for the sins of the father and all that.

It doesn’t completely invalidate the good he did do/say, but it’s definitely a black mark on his record and why I can’t really get fully behind him, even for meme reasons.

I’ve brought him up before, but I think Micah Xavier Johnson is overall a better example. Apparently he was a sexual harasser when he was in the military, which is obviously terrible, but at least you can say when he went on his spree that he didn’t go for any non-cops.

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When fighting monsters, one must be careful not to become one themselves. I can understand how one passionate enough and angry enough to fight back could have their morality twisted and see taking children from people who have taken our children as fair play, but we should absolutely lay it down in stone that it is NOT okay. Rip the monsters apart, don’t hurt innocents around them.

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When fighting monsters,

he was just a disaffected worker not a crusader lol

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I’m not saying his killing of a cop’s single kid is comparable to all the people cops kill, I’m just saying that it’s wrong regardless.

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understandable tbh

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Agreed. Saying that Dorner was bad isn’t taking the side of cops. Dorner was bad, unequivocally. No revolutionary can defend the slaughter of innocents.

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Oh buddy I wish.

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I forget, is revolution a tea party? There was someone who said something about what revolution was and was not… but I’ve forgotten what they said

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See this is what I’m on about.

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Killing an innocent as a mistake is different from deliberate targeting of an innocent. It’s bad enough when someone innocent dies in an explosion. It’s worse if you mean to target innocents entirely

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That’s what I was trying to convey, sorry if it wasn’t clear. Bystanders always die in armed conflicts such as revolutions, that’s just the fact of the matter, though attempts should be made to minimize it. I think that’s categorically different from just sadistically targeting people who have nothing to do with the conflict, however.

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