Edit 2 - this is a vent/rant. Just ignore it. Or maybe I’ll delete it. Sorry.

I’m sorry. Y’all are too much sometimes. You need to give up one of those identities if you wanna be included.

Edit - I feel y’all aren’t getting my point. I didn’t mean this in a “bait” way. Straight white men have the most “reactionary” tendencies among all working people by far. They’re the most reluctant to socialism and get easily swayed by the bourgeoisie on “idpol” grounds. And yes this does effect other proles to an extent (such as gay white men being slightly more conservative than other LGBTQ people on average or white feminists being more TERF than bipoc feminists on average) but straight white men are the backbone of all reactionary movements in the West, with others forming a small minority. The entire debate about “class reductionism” vs “idpol” is a thing literally just because straight white men refuse to understand the importance of other identities. Like, look at MAGACommunism. It’s literally 99% white dudes.

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I edited the post to expand on what I meant.

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Having read your edit, I understand your point. My social circle reflects your sentiment. There’s a reason few of my close friends are men!

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:cringe:

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I edited the post to expand on what I meant.

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It’s liberal bullshit like those social media videos of people “renouncing” their whiteness. MFer you CAN’T do that. It’s not an individual thing it’s a systemic one and you can only destroy the system that perpetuates it.

What people can do is use various forms of privilege to take risks that more marginalized people either cannot or should not be expected to and to use that privilege against itself.

I honestly don’t get the point of this other than as bait.

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I agree with all that.

I honestly don’t get the point of this other than as bait.

Well, I saw two instances of racism in the past two days that really irritated me and I wanted to understand why white working people would hate other working people to the extent they were willing to make everyone’s lives more miserable. This is what I came up with.

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:downbear:

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I edited the post to expand on what I meant.

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Majority of white women voted trump

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Actual good discussion in comments. Leaving up, but very reactionary title.

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it close to pointlessly hating men vs the patriarchy. destroy patriarchy, not men

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liberals forget this point

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