Last night I met a guy at Halloween party who told me he was a Free Mason. He was hilarious and fit right in with my friend group. Upon asking him what the Free Masons are he just said “basically we’re a bunch of dudes who get together for pancakes on Saturday.”

I’ve also heard conspiracies about the group in the past, and I even had an ex coworker once tell me the Free Masons were a cult and were out to get him.

Anyone have any insights? The internet is not very helpful.

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A bunch of Christians decided to reincorporate magic into the religion after folk magic had become detestable and demonized. They did it in a very nerdy way with organized ritual. You join as a newb/student and work your way up through several layers of seniority. It’s kind of like Deism except that instead of incorporating Enlightenment natural philosophy into religion, it was hermetic philosophy. This was pre Enlightenment so that makes sense.

Masons are a derivative of this kind of thing. It’s mainly a fellowship thing just like organized religion except with the nerd shit of esoteric/occult knowledge.

Imagine a 16th/17th century Discord group with roles and everything. The conspiracies come up because a lot historical figures were part of the discord server and they used esoteric imagery because they were big nerds.

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Conspiracies come up because of shit like this

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Nah, that happened so late in the game it didn’t matter. People have been accusing the Freemasons of running society from the shadows for as long as they’ve existed. The GLADIO thing was more that all the members of the conspiracy joined the same club because they were buddies, not that the Masons as a whole are always doing sneaky spy shit.

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Conspiracy stuff also comes up because during the bourgeois revolutions (American, French), revolutionaries did organize through their Masonic lodges, so pretty much every memorable figure of the American revolution was a Freemason. The conspiracy-brained part is thinking that Masonry is fundamentally a conspiratorial/revolutionary organization, that continues to control social changes today.

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If you join the Masons and convert them to communism you will basically win being a revolutionary forever.

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It’s strange to me the don’t allow women to join? I must assume women don’t like pancakes.

There must be big DUDES ROCK energy going on.

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Some lodges do but in a very paternalistic way that shows how the organization started hundreds of years ago. They have to join under the feminine equivalent and they’re the same in all but name and political standing within the lodge.

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Women get their own order: The Order of the Eastern Star

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Ok, but random women can’t join. You have to have a male family member or husband who is a freemason. So your ability to be a member of eastern star is subordinate to and dependent on the freemason status of a man in your family. Also, men can be in eastern star, but women cannot be masons

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all fraternal orgs (Moose, Elks, Odd Fellows, etc.) used to be men-only (hence the term “fraternal”), the Masons are just the only ones who have not changed their bylaws. there are some lodges that admit women but I think they are only recognized by each other rather that the traditional grand lodges.

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I don’t think this is generally true of the Masons as a whole, but a sub-lodge, Propaganda Due (how’s that for on the nose…), was used to do some pretty nefarious stuff during Operation Gladio

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Here take a look at this. It’s a video of a guy trying to join the freemasons, before concluding that they basically are just a harmless albeit secretive social club.

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