All this talk about “the liberal communists Bill Gates and George Soros” and how “the neoliberals are now more leninist than the Leninists” is getting increasingly :sus:
in every thread i’ve ever seen bashing them, i haven’t seen a single person say “hey, quit it, i’m a Trot!” many here will give Trotsky his due, but i’ve never seen anyone claim affinity with a Trot party or tendency. We even have some anprims here! It really gives one the impression that it’s a total dead end.
IMO it’s two things:
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Fairly universally disliked (or at least, made fun of). Not many people want to stick up for them.
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They’re known for being sectarian and I think that makes folks (I admit this includes me lol) feel justified.
I don’t know if I condone it but I do try to get away with it!
True, though I’m glad we’re not really fair, ha. There are certain tendencies among the Western left that end up just being support for the American empire with extra steps and you really can’t avoid at least implicitly crapping on them by calling out their ideas as such.
Anyways not really trying to justify it so much as take a stab at thinking about why it’s (quietly) accepted.
If I recall, the group zero books whom published this book and a lot of the people that ran with it were either succdems or trots. They tried to enter the breadtube sphere as an intelligensia movement that wanted to bring “modern socialist ideas” to the internet “working class” (I’ll remind you we’re talking about breadtube)
Trotskyists are Leninists.
“the neoliberals are now more leninist than the Leninists”
so you’re saying neoliberals are trotskyites
