Yes, better than in France and Germany. That’s the US train service.

Definitely. Also, China does not exist.

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  1. This is an obviously bullshit list made by a low-paid intern

  2. If you mess around with statistics, you might get high numbers from the U.S. in terms of amount of freight carried, as U.S. Class 1 railroads do indeed carry a great deal of freight. However, it tends to be bulk freight, so you get a lot of wheat, corn, coal, gravel, and the like.

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The argument is fundamentally dumb as hell, because the Soviet Union had some of the most advanced and used rail-networks on the planet, and they were literally build in the biggest country to have ever existed.

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Oh boy if you think that argument is pervasive in the US, just try advocating for rail in Canada :sadness: Some hardliner social democrat I know explained to me how impossible it was with our size, even though a huge percentage of the population live in the Windsor-Montreal corridor.

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You can take trains between Lisbon and Moscow, but not a high speed train. You’ll have to transfer between several low speed trains, but there are a few high szeed segments.

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“I dunno, according to these numbers the american rail is already in the top 12. Maybe we should just get more highways? :thinking-about-it:”

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China totally absent?

:xi-reactionary-spotted:

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Apparently, yes.

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Definition: The Quality of railroad infrastructure indicator is one of the components of the Global Competitiveness Index published annually by the World Economic Forum (WEF). It represents an assessment of the quality of the railroad system in a given country based on data from the WEF Executive Opinion Survey, a long-running and extensive survey tapping the opinions of over 14,000 business leaders in 144 countries. The score for railroad infrastrucutre quality is based on only one question. The respondents are asked to rate the railroads in their country of operation on a scale from 1 (underdeveloped) to 7 (extensive and efficient by international standards). The individual responses are aggregated to produce a country score.

it’s just vibes

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And those “business leaders” are probably exclusively thinking of freight rail and how cheap it is for them to ship freight on it for their company, since they never actually ride trains.

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Makes sense. The passenger rail network in germany is at the exact state where it’s a mess but still gets used by most people regardless of economic standing. That’d definitely colour perception

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Oh good, I trust the opinions of business leaders on rail efficiency

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And to be a little catty about the empty speculation that always pops up in this type of thread when the answer is just 1 search away:

Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful.

  • Mao, Oppose Book Worship
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Um excuse me, California has been building high speed rail the last twenty years and it’s billions over budget. They haven’t finished one segment but it’s on its way.

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OK I will defend the CA HSR. It’s taking comically long (was approved in 2009, won’t be done until like 2035) but it will actually get done; it’s not total vaporware. The part through the Central Valley is nearly done and should be up and running soon IIRC.

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My hunch is that California dems are just extremely reluctant they have to follow through on this, so they are trying almost every poison pill under the sun to try to get people to cancel it.

In about 5 years, they will be explicitly begging voters to make them stop.

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Yeah a lot of the state representatives from LA or SF wanted to cancel this to focus on local transit in this areas. I think that’s how we got this compromise where they only started construction in the Central Valley

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Construction hasn’t been going going for 10 years and most of the difficulty has been acquiring land.

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Wait so their trains run on coal or something?

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diesel engines

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Wait really ? that’s ridiculous lmao

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