I HATE MOBILE WEBSITES AS THE DEFAULT

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Why does everyone always fucking do this? Youtube is still a shittier layout than it was 10 years ago. As is Reddit. Some new features are good, but the layout is piss poor. This new wiki layout literally displays as ~40% empty white space on my screens. I basically never use my phone to browse sites, and when I do, I almost always have to pick desktop mode anyway because mobile layouts are awful.

It’s apparently a modern UX mantra that any UI change will create a lot backlash, and then it will die down and that means the change is good. It’s the stupidest fucking thinking, maybe people just realise you’re not fucking listening so they give up and put up with a worse interface?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering

Pick “Vector legacy (2010)”, scroll down and save

Or pick “MonoBook” if you want even older Wikipedia.

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Apparently this was majority voted against but still pushed through lmao.

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Was this a public wikipedia consensus discussion thing? Anyone got a link if so?

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abusive and patronizing practice called A/B testing

this is absolutely unhinged. log off

Death to America

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abusive and patronizing practice called A/B testing

Why? Practical data on the effect of a change is 1000x better than asking the user or more commonly, just guessing.

For most bad interface parts, when you ask the UI guy why it’s like that, you either get:

That’s just the way they made it

Some imagined use case literally nobody follows

They watched users using it wrong and stuck guide rails in

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wow this is dogshit, so much wasted space

anyone got css to remove the empty space???

edit: removing margin of class=“mw-content-container” fixes it

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en.wikipedia.org##.vector-feature-page-tools-disabled .mw-content-container, .vector-feature-page-tools-disabled .mw-table-of-contents-container:style(max-width: none !important;)

en.wikipedia.org##.mw-page-container:style(max-width: none !important;)

to ublock origin filter list

for removing that hamburger menu on home page:

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en.wikipedia.org##+js(ra.js, id, input#mw-sidebar-checkbox)

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Or just go here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering and pick “Vector legacy (2010)”

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