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Leonardo DiCaprio is 50 and is still dating 18 year old girls, does anyone else feel like this is wrong?

He’s 48 and she’s 19, unless you’re trying to intentionally mislead with your thread title.

But that’s besides the point. Leftists need to understand that the age thing isn’t as big a deal as it seems. Honestly this sounds like some moralistic western left thing.

Conservative idiots will point out that kids can elect to start the transition process at a much younger age and use that as some kind of argument “win” against the same leftists who get creeped out by age gaps. Even though they’re only pointing this out as a debatebro tactic (cuz they actually hate trans people), the point still kind of stands. If you’re willing to let teenagers make big life decisions, then at the very least an 18 year old should be able to date someone much older. Otherwise you run the risk of infantalizing people, which has its own set of issues. And tbh it’s also ageist to suggest that older ppl should “stay in their own lane” so to speak.

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Conservatives are absolutely already using this moment to bring up the age people can transition. Granted most of them seem to think there are toddlers getting reassignment surgery, so it’s not exactly rooted in reality.

I tend to think that an 18 year-old does have the right to decide if they want to date somebody older than them. That being said, being in my 30s, the concept of dating an 18 year-old sounds extremely weird to me. I have no interest in developing an intimate relationship with somebody that much younger than me and I would strongly question the motivations of somebody who does, at least until the younger person reaches their late 20s.

So I don’t really know. I don’t think I’d support making a relationship like this illegal, but I don’t think it should be normalized in society either. Maybe that’s hypocritical?

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Dating a significantly older person is not at like taking hrt when your twelve. If anything having more kids willingly take hrt will result in less discord shenanigans between minors and discord predators.

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I’d have to defer to people with more knowledge of hrt on the specifics there, but I absolutely agree that comparing taking hrt in your teens to dating somebody 30 years older than you is completely ridiculous.

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And tbh it’s also ageist to suggest that older ppl should “stay in their own lane” so to speak.

this is one of the stupidest things i’ve read all day

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:downbear:

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You see nothing wrong with a very old person electing to date a younger person? The power dynamic is exploitative, it’s not as bad as outright

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pedophilia

but there’s gotta be a rule that deals with situations like Leonardo DiCaprio exclusively dating young girls. That should be legally prosecutable. We have Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason, we need to have a Leonardo DiCaprio law. Like it’s okay if a 30 year old dates a 30 year old once, five times though? That’s gonna require some reeducation.

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Leo is definitely guilty of being a complete fucking manchild but I don’t see why you would make being a manchild illegal.

Like what are the options here exactly? Codify the “half your age + 7” rule into law?

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If they can’t drink it shouldn’t be legal.

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We have Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason, we need to have a Leonardo DiCaprio law.

Didn’t he star in a Romeo and Juliet movie actually?

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He did that’s what’s so funny about it.

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I don’t think it should be legally prosecutable, because the law is a blunt instrument, but I do think it should be socially unacceptable. Subject to social stigma, not invited to the good parties, miss out on opportunities, etc.

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And tbh it’s also ageist to suggest that older ppl should “stay in their own lane” so to speak.

I dunno, I’m pushing 50, and I’d look a little askance at anyone my age dating someone under 35.

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I really don’t see the issue, frankly. People claim that it’s because some people are older and they have more experience that that makes them able to manipulate younger people, somehow. But to be fair, a lot of older people are just as fuckin’ stupid as 18 year olds and barely have progressed mentally. IDK, I’m not really willing to die on this hill, but I don’t think the discourse around it is very convincing.

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It’s fuckin weird of him to do it, we were all 19 at some point (well, I’m assuming lol) we’ve all made bad choices. One of those bad choices is easily dating someone nearly 30 years older than you, especially when he keeps dumping girlfriends when they reach the age of 22.

But for Leo to do it, come on man, it’s a creepy thing to do. And he just keeps doing it and dumping them when they age out.

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https://moedred.livejournal.com/2009/03/04/

“RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK”

Story Conference Transcript

January 23, 1978 thru January 27, 1978

George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Larry Kasdan

George Lucas wanted a pedophile in Raiders of the Lost Ark. “He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.” L — “And he was forty-two.” Steven Speilberg — “And promiscuous. She came onto him.”

G — Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore.

How about that for the attitudes of Hollywood royalty?

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But to be fair, a lot of older people are just as fuckin’ stupid as 18 year olds and barely have progressed mentally. IDK, I’m not really willing to die on this hill, but I don’t think the discourse around it is very convincing.

Yeah like every maga chud who’s 50+ who acts like a complete child when the waiter/waitress at a restaurant isn’t treating them like a god. Or the countless politicians who act like complete children and rage out over the dumbest shit. Yea I’ve never really bought into the mental maturity thing too much b/c to be honest, pretty much everyone who grows up middle class in the US is in some form of arrested development. Especially when compared to how quickly kids have to become “adults” (as in start supporting the family, working, etc.) in the global south.

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It’s not about age, it’s about time to accumulate capital and economic dominance and coercion

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Then family wealth should be considered to evaluate capital. Someone with homeowner parents has much more capital than someone without

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Hot take: 50 year olds dating teenagers is wrong

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Its problematic sure but its not illegal and honestly I dont think it should be. Even if I you increased the age of consent to lets say 21 the age gap would be still problematic. But some things can be problematic but should still be allowed like a boss dating his secretary for example.

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I mean there’s a 6 year age gap between my partner and i but we’re both in or very near our 30s. I wouldn’t have considered them a viable partner when she was 18 and I was 24 tbh.

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But some things can be problematic but should still be allowed like a boss dating his secretary for example.

um what

problematic things should be solved, thats what the world problem means. Action should be taken to actively reduce these things.

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Even in an anarchist society you will have “powerdynamics” like a partner that is more conventionally beautiful, has a more prestigous job like say surgeon or is simply very popular with a lot of people. Sure I agree that we should strife to reduce the imbalances and even the playing field but under the current oder only so much is possible. Which is why I wouldnt mind an increase in the Age of Consent since it would be a pragmatic thing that could actually happen (at least on paper).

And yes I think a Boss / secretary realtionship is problematic but it should be allowed under the current system. (Assuming consenting adults). Of course we should try to eliminate the need for bosses but that is not something that is going to happen anytime soon.

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A terrible argument to make, a culture of dating people close to your own age is what should be happening. Introducing new laws besides age of consent that help this along would be good.

I can’t believe I have to make these arguments here of all places. I thought this place was better. He related his own goddamn experiences with it and all you can do is give a non-question, like some right-winger.

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The fact that its a repeated pattern and he doesnt show interest in women his own age is moderately sketchy to me but I don’t have a problem with age gaps between consenting adults and I dont like infantilizing young adults like moral crusaders on reddit and twitter are always doing. I have a much younger partner (adult obvi) personally and I know that she chose me and is capable of doing so. I also have another partner closer to my age. The only reason I think its weird with Leo is that its a repeated pattern, and also his power because of his fame and wealth.

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I know this is an ancient anxiety

Historically it isn’t even that much of an anxiety. I know orientalists like to point out these age gaps when they’re trying to be racist/colonial/islamophobic, but even in the west this wasn’t that big of a deal until recently. I’m not sure what caused the sudden switch. Maybe a historian here can answer?

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And while the 48/19 thing is a little :fidel-wut:, doesn’t he mostly date women in their mid-20s? Most of whom have their own more-than-decent careers?

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nope, he dumps them when they get 25ish and goes back for the younger ages lol

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on one hand, it’s hella bad and wrong for many reasons

on the other hand, it can quickly devolve into infantilizing young adults because obviously some old cooter in the congress knows better than them whether they consent or not, so regulating this is hella shaky

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