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Arrive in Britain

Refer to the locals as Welsh, meaning foreigner

Murder a fuck-tonne of them to steal their land

The Saxons are the true fathers of English values.

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:england-cool:

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The Picts made sure the Celtic cultures got their revenge on the Saxons, don’t worry. They and the Britons who retreated to Wales were a constant pain in the ass for England.

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I really need to do that effort post on mediaeval Welsh guerilla warfare at some point.

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You should do it. The medieval Welsh were excellent archers so much so that before England trained up it’s own longbowmen, they hired Welsh longbowmen as their main force of archers. Eventually England had it’s own life longbowmen and the need for mercenaries left, but for a time they were England’s long rage fighters.

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How’d that work out for em in the end

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I mean, I don’t know, you could say both Scotland and Wales still eventually ended up as English colonial projects, but at the same time people usually revere the Celtic Fringe of britain and talk down England.

All I all I just like history, I think the user Dolores summed it nicely when they implied that everyone back then was just probably not a very nice person and a lot of bad shit was done to each other.

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The Welsh brought in the Saxons because they wanted them to kill the Picts

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Saxons go home. But also neither were very nice by modern standards. Stan the Tuatha De Dannan I guess.

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Love to associate modern national identities to cultures that are older than Christ lol

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both are colonizers, i choose the Picts

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Are the Picts not Celtic Britons?

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Picts are the people who were there before the Celtic migration. nobody really knows where the Celts came from. the most accepted hypothesis is that they came from central europe (modern day austria). newer hypotheses are that they were originally from the Atlantic coast of europe or Gaul

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Fair enough. Yeah I’ve always heard the theory they were celts, but it seems that’s becoming dated. They still are a pretty big mystery and what happened to them I don’t think we know yet.

Most likely theory is that they just were absorbed by the Scoti and Britons as well as the angles living in Scotland at the same time.

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the idea picts are a kind of rump ‘indigenous’ enclave is no longer popular they’ve found some inscriptions & analyzed the names and think they also spoke a celtic language

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i like swamp guys as far as types of pehistoric guys go

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