Nobody is willing to even entertain the idea that West isn’t Best. Suggesting that whitey shouldn’t rule the world is received as if you’d advocated cannibalism, and you will be condescended to and treated like an ignorant child even as they make it clear they know much less than you do about the subject at hand, if not outright ejected from the community. It’s not just bots and manufacturing consent, either - it happens to me in real life just as easily as it happens online.
Anyone who isn’t unconditionally anti-NATO and anti-American hegemony is a white supremacist. No exceptions.
Love this place, though. I think I’d go crazy if it wasn’t for you guys. Glad I have somewhere to get this off my chest :soviet-heart:
Talked to my colleague about how the capitalist state uses violence to enforce its laws and that its not just something that “authoritarian countries” do
And he gives me a look like i’ve just talked about how the moon landing was a hoax
You have to say something like “the guy with the gun makes the rules, even in a democracy.” Actually uttering the words “capitalism” will make most Angloids brains shut off.
It’s like the star trek aliens that talk in references, but with moviespeak clichés.
The other day I overheard a father talking to his kid say something to the tune of “Well, son, unlike other countries in the world we’re a democracy. We can voice our opinions, choose our government and criticise them, that’s our right!”
I immediately thought of how Toronto was turned into an open-air prison during the G20 protests in 2010 and how (more recently) the RCMP openly used violence and police brutality against anti-old growth logging protesters like a 30 minute drive from where this dude was standing.
You can criticise the government all you want, bucko, but you cannot pose an even minor threat to capital.
See the US with all its freedoms enshrined in law vs the US when a single group (BPP, YL, RC generally) threatens its hegemony. I had a professor use the foot in the door metaphor to describe political progress in the US, where at least there is a bit of freedom to make change, unlike Iran or China. The way I understood it was, you get a foot in the door, but any attempt to widen it gets your toes chopped off
I continue to shock leftists I know when I say Death to America but I’m even more shocked that they haven’t come to that conclusion themselves. I understand your pain
At this point I don’t even bother talking about that stuff with anybody. I’ve gotten a few glares when I snicker at their dumbass comments but when they ask me to elaborate I just say “oh it’s nothing, man”
I don’t know. Even when I hear the rare, based comment, I just don’t even say anything because talking about politics with people face-to-face just seems unnatural to me, regardless of the content
Mao would call you a liberal for it (it’s okay he’d call me one too, I want people to like me).
That’s where I am unless people directly ask me my opinions, then I don’t hide it. I call myself a communist when asked and it seems to work so far because other people either think I’m joking or they have no idea what a communist is.
I don’t hop into things anymore though, it just makes pointless arguments happen and most people don’t feel strongly enough to care anyway. I just nod and go “Yeah.” Like the other day a coworker asked me why I don’t move to Canada if I like socialism, then I did joke saying Canada’s too communist for me. He nodded and said “Yeah, they’re even worse than communists there. They’re like Democrats.”
that’s around the level most people are at
This is how I generally feel too. I have a painfully lib co-worker, a chud co-worker, and a less painfully lib co-worker whose heart is in the right place. The third one and I often see eye to eye, to the point I’ve sometimes wondered if he’s secretly more left than he lets on (but I think I’m coping).
The first one though, my god, comes out with the dumbest politically illiterate “taken from Reddit front page” takes and is also ridiculously smug about it. It does wind me up a bit sometimes but mostly I just see him as a loud idiot. I say enough to offer a counter to his talking points, but I’m also very aware of the environment in my lib/conservative workplace.
Anyone who isn’t unconditionally anti-NATO and anti-American hegemony is a white supremacist. No exceptions.
:yes-hahaha-yes-l:
:sicko-hexbear: