Of course the US Senate is incredibly undemocratic and was set up to cement the power of the wealthy against people wanting to do stuff. It sucks. But at least I can understand the rationale given by people who would defend it. The 13 colonies were distinct entities, and the Senate was structured (on paper) to represent the interests of these distinct entities.

But every single state other than Nebraska has a “House” and a “Senate”. And as far as I can tell, the Senate district boundaries are completely arbitrary. So what’s the point?! No state other than maybe ones like CA or TX could have distinct subdivisions. It’s either pointlessly redundant with the state House or broken up by a weird map that only serves to gum up the works (though I guess that’s the point).

There in no excuse in 2023 for a form of government other than everyone’s vote counting equally (with a possible exception for overweighting the votes of marginalized peoples, but that’s such a far out possibility there’s not much point in bringing it up). I can explain in detail how the Cuban electoral system is way more democratic than the US to an American, and they will just shut down and insist our system is more democratic regardless.

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To uphold class rule and prevent democracy from developing

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It’s meant to be a check on the power of the legislature, meaning if somehow the plebs figure out how to legally conquer the House of Representatives, the rich still have the senate.

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:same-picture:

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neoliberal democracy is mostly having 18 governing bodies who can say no to doing good stuff and like 1 that proposes it

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Any honest political scientist would tell you it doesn’t make sense, especially on the state level. The best argument I’ve seen for bicameralism is the Soviet system’s congress of nationalities, but that allows for ethnic representation rather than arbitrary geographic representation

You already know that the system lets wealthy people have their own mini fiefdoms, which is probably the reason most states use it

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I just want to add that considering this it’s especially funny when people call states “laboratories of democracy”. Bruh the only experiments these copycat states are doing is how to most effectively kill people before ramping it up federally.

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“Laboratories of fascism” is far more accurate

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set up to cement the power of the wealthy against people wanting to do stuff

I mean you answered your own question

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